I don't know what happened to the original thread, but I wanted to give my 2 cents.



I personally have no desire to have a snake that is a 10th generation captive born snake. All of my current collection is either wild caught animals or animals that I personally produced from wild caught, exact locality pairings. To each his own, but if I am going to keep a captive born animal, it needs to be from the same cut if at all possible, or at most a mile or two apart. I have some black gaps snakes on breeding loan that are F1 snakes that originated from about four miles from where our male was found. I also have two wc females from the same cut. While the cb females are much nicer looking snakes than the two wc females, I plan on keeping mainly offspring from the latter pairing (I am sure that I will keep at least one female from each of the captive born females). To most people, I think that they would be fine with this pairing (and I am too) but I would much prefer them to be from the same cut.



The 10th generation and Black Gap brings me to another thing that is bugging me. Every Gap baby that I see for sale looks identical, super speckled with little orange (and not to mention, they could have some Stillwell Cut ancestry in there somewhere). What once was considered a very unique animal, is now the norm and for me very boring. This takes away what is special about the Black Gap locality and that is diversity in color and pattern. When was the last time you saw a captive born blairs from Black Gap? The blair morph is a very common phenotype from that locality in the wild, and yet is sorely underrepresented in captivity. I hope to remedy that next year.



My 2 cents,

Bryan Box

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