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Posted by: aspidites at Thu Oct 22 17:09:23 2009   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by aspidites ]  
   

**That really does appear to be an accurate assessment of yourself, lol. But, you’ll have to wait until tonight. **



"I shiver with anticip........pation."



** When that happens, you’ll be the first I contact to express my feelings. No. I hope I do, and I hope it is one that is speckled with triple alternates. That will make pairing it up a lot easier. I don’t know that wild ones do not possess triple alternates. But, if they’re around then they will be collected (or photographed) and I can at least move Huecos with triple alternates from my UFO category. **



With each of these comments you make it clear that you don't care to address the issue or my points. It's easy to be flippant - that way you don't have to answer the question.



**Hmmm...it shouldn’t seem funny. As far as I know, no Hueco has been collected that is heavily speckled with triple alternates. In fact, I know of only one with speckling and it’s in the collection of Mr. Johnson. Do you know of any? A picture please.**



It is funny. And it is also apparent that you are unable to see my point. Firstly, you have made a telling statement here...'as far as I know.' Do you at least allow for the possibility that you don't know about all of the Hueco alterna that have been captured? Secondly, with your attitude/opinion, were I to produce a photograph (or anyone for that matter) would it be accepted? Lastly, since you have not collected any Hueco's yourself, how do you know that all of the photos of Hueco's that exist now of 'wild' ones are actual and true? If you produce a photograph, that makes it the truth? I am BEGGING you to try to accept the following point....I can go out into my snake room right now and take photos of 100 alterna that have never been photographed and no one but me and close friends have ever seen and disseminate the pictures with locality collection data. Just because I do that does not make it the truth and conversely just because I don't do that does not mean that it is a lie or the animals do or do not exist. Any number of a hundred people could do the same thing. JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF WHAT SOMEONE CLAIMS IS A WILD HUECO DOES NOT MEAN IT IS WHAT THEY CLAIM!!! So, by that reasoning, because you have never collected one, how do you know that the entire population of Hueco's is NOT speckled? Isn't it possible that the known pictures are falsehoods?



**How do you know that true wild Huecos aren't speckled?

> Are you suggesting that all the Huecos that have been collected without speckling are not true Huecos? **



Yes - and by your logic you should be agreeing with me, right? I'm just trying to be a doubting Thomas like you (I apologize for my religious reference here - but you know how we zealots can get). How do you know that ANY wild Hueco's were ever collected, let alone what a wild Hueco may or may not look like?



**Granted - it is a profoundly bad situation to be in…producing offspring that is atypical of known collected specimens. For me to believe that the line is pure I’ll have to see the expression of speckling and triple alternates in other wc Hueco alterna. So far, none have exhibited these traits other than the alterna produced from the collection of Dan Johnson. Right? **



Again, how do you know that? How do you know the validity of any of the Hueco's purported to be wild if you did not collect them yourself? Do you think you can answer one of the early questions without deflecting it with attempted humor??? WHAT IF this had happened with animals you collected instead of with Dan?


   

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