It appears to me that you guys are tugging all around the real issue here. The issue is trust. You mention you could take a hundred pictures and post them with data and people should take your word for it. That should be the case BBBUUUUTTTTT, it appears people do not TRUST you at this point. Believe it or not there are a lot of people out there that have extensive experience with these critters. There is a huge pile of information including collection data, pictures, papers, and personal observations of collectors that have proven, over the years, to be not only right but above reproach.



I personally know some of the people that have captured Hueco animals. I have seen the live animals and have seen pictures of others. I trust the collectors. Not one of them even had a hint of speckles or triple alternates. You mention the argument that maybe the speckled and triple alternated snakes may be at a disadvantage and are not surviving in the wild so there are not any collected. I would think that if that were the case, wouldn't the gene eventually be bred out of the wild animals. Also, if speckles is a problem for the specie why are there other locality populations that have numerous speckled and triple alternated snakes being collected. You seem to trust DJ so much about his animals and believe him, ask yourself - Does he have a single picture of the wild specimens he collected that has speckles or trip alternates????? I do not think so. If so show me.



Once again pictures, field notes, snake room documentation, and anything else you can think of will not ever make up for a loss of TRUST. There is an old saying "Screw me once, shame on you. Screw me twice, shame on me." I feel very confident that I have never been screwed twice by the same person. Maybe we should all take up that philosophy. LOL ??

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