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ectimaeus
at Fri Oct 23 14:57:46 2009 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by ectimaeus ]
John, I would not argue that there are a few specks on this snake. I do not know that I would go so far as to say that there is a triple alternate. What I would ask you, with all your experience, is do you believe that if you bred that snake with another female that did not have those marks would you get from the f1 breeding offspring that were half speckled and triple alternated as depicted in the pictures that DJ has posted?Have you ever seen a wild Hueco snake or any other f1 Hueco snake that exhibited those traits, besides DJ's?
This is leading me to ask, if the trait is so unusual (in wild caught Huecos) and you breed one male to the same female for 3 years in a row and 2/3 of the offspring have pronounced markings, what are the odds? We are suspecting that at best the speckling and triple alternates must be a pretty resessive trait. Now 3 breedings and a large number of offspring have exhibited markings as if they were siblings being bred or offspring back to father breedings.
I do not claim to be educated in the genetics field and cannot compute the chances of how offspring will turn out. But, lets take an albino male snake and breed to a normal female. What do you get, HETS. Not 2/3 albinos. Am I wrong with this line of thinking?? If I am not wrong, then does it not look even a little bit odd that so many of DJ's f1 offspring are showing such a dramatic increase of speckles and triple alternates? Just thinking out loud here. I need help getting a handle on this issue.
ECT
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- The "Bumblebee" line comes home... - Damon Salceies, Mon Oct 19 13:29:22 2009
- RE: The "Bumblebee" line comes home... - bbox, Mon Oct 19 21:30:53 2009
- RE: The "Bumblebee" line comes home... - Coach, Tue Oct 20 09:20:25 2009
- RE: The "Bumblebee" line comes home... - ectimaeus, Wed Oct 21 15:02:35 2009
- RE: The "Bumblebee" line comes home... - swwit, Wed Oct 21 16:24:26 2009

- Well, stay tuned... - rpelaez, Wed Oct 21 17:00:27 2009
- RE: The "Bumblebee" line comes home... - aspidites, Wed Oct 21 18:00:31 2009
- Hueco alterna? - Brad Alexander, Wed Oct 21 18:05:34 2009
- RE: Hueco alterna? - aspidites, Wed Oct 21 18:15:34 2009
- Brad...lol - rpelaez, Wed Oct 21 18:24:27 2009
- Hueco Speckling and Triples - stevenxowens792, Wed Oct 21 18:25:36 2009
- RE: Hueco alterna? - chrisdrake, Wed Oct 21 19:02:05 2009
- RE: Brad...lol - Brad Alexander, Wed Oct 21 19:04:34 2009
- 1 of my points exactly - Brad Alexander, Wed Oct 21 19:08:45 2009
- RE: 1 of my points exactly - chrisdrake, Wed Oct 21 19:15:57 2009
- RE: 1 of my points exactly - Brad Alexander, Wed Oct 21 19:40:41 2009
- RE: Brad...lol - swwit, Wed Oct 21 19:49:17 2009
- RE: Brad...lol - rpelaez, Wed Oct 21 20:05:43 2009
- One minor nitpick - Brad Alexander, Wed Oct 21 20:15:31 2009
- RE: The "Bumblebee" line comes home... - Damon Salceies, Wed Oct 21 23:14:26 2009
- RE: Brad...lol - aspidites, Thu Oct 22 09:42:46 2009
- RE: One minor nitpick - Tony D, Thu Oct 22 10:51:25 2009
- RE: The "Bumblebee" line comes home... - Dan Johnson, Thu Oct 22 11:05:59 2009
- FWIW - lbenton, Thu Oct 22 11:14:04 2009
- RE: The "Bumblebee" line comes home... - aspidites, Thu Oct 22 11:16:30 2009
- RE: Brad...lol - aspidites, Thu Oct 22 13:47:21 2009
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- It's almost over... - rpelaez, Thu Oct 22 18:47:48 2009
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- I fear it will never be. LOL - aspidites, Thu Oct 22 19:00:06 2009
- RE: LOL... - rpelaez, Thu Oct 22 19:01:29 2009
- Link - Damon Salceies, Thu Oct 22 19:15:34 2009
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- Locking in my final answer - lbenton, Thu Oct 22 19:27:03 2009

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- RE: LOL... - ectimaeus, Thu Oct 22 21:41:58 2009
- RE: Smear campaign...LOL - aspidites, Thu Oct 22 21:44:23 2009
- RE: Smear campaign...LOL - swwit, Thu Oct 22 21:45:03 2009
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- RE: LOL... - aspidites, Thu Oct 22 21:52:13 2009
- RE: LOL... - aspidites, Thu Oct 22 21:57:29 2009
- RE: LOL... - ectimaeus, Thu Oct 22 22:10:47 2009
- RE: The "Bumblebee" line comes home... - Aaron, Thu Oct 22 22:17:47 2009
- RE: LOL... - aspidites, Thu Oct 22 22:39:42 2009
- RE: Smear campaign...LOL - rpelaez, Thu Oct 22 22:49:40 2009
- RE: Smear campaign...LOL - aspidites, Thu Oct 22 23:05:12 2009
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- RE: Smear campaign...LOL - rpelaez, Thu Oct 22 23:34:14 2009
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- RE: LOL... - Aaron, Fri Oct 23 00:08:32 2009
- RE: Smear campaign...LOL - aspidites, Fri Oct 23 00:17:52 2009
- RE: LOL... - aspidites, Fri Oct 23 00:19:25 2009
- RE: Smear campaign...LOL - rpelaez, Fri Oct 23 01:04:50 2009
- RE: Smear campaign...LOL - aspidites, Fri Oct 23 01:21:35 2009
- End of story... - rpelaez, Fri Oct 23 05:12:54 2009
- RE: Locking in my final answer - lbenton, Fri Oct 23 08:02:02 2009
- RE: Locking in my final answer - lbenton, Fri Oct 23 08:10:25 2009
- RE: Locking in my final answer - rpelaez, Fri Oct 23 08:23:46 2009
- RE: LOL... - Brad Alexander, Fri Oct 23 08:29:35 2009
- RE: Smear campaign...LOL - lbenton, Fri Oct 23 08:36:01 2009
- RE: LOL... - rpelaez, Fri Oct 23 08:40:55 2009
- Good grief.... - lbenton, Fri Oct 23 08:56:07 2009
- I have to ask... - lbenton, Fri Oct 23 09:15:53 2009
- RE: Locking in my final answer - aspidites, Fri Oct 23 09:38:22 2009
- RE: End of story... - aspidites, Fri Oct 23 09:57:28 2009
- The point? - lbenton, Fri Oct 23 10:04:54 2009
- RE: I have to ask... - aspidites, Fri Oct 23 10:07:13 2009
- RE: I have to ask... - lbenton, Fri Oct 23 10:29:57 2009
- RE: Good grief.... - aspidites, Fri Oct 23 10:35:31 2009
- RE: I have to ask... - aspidites, Fri Oct 23 10:42:40 2009
- RE: FWIW - Tony D, Fri Oct 23 10:55:22 2009
- RE: FWIW - aspidites, Fri Oct 23 11:22:38 2009
- The point? - lbenton, Fri Oct 23 12:19:57 2009
- RE: Good grief.... - ectimaeus, Fri Oct 23 13:58:07 2009
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- RE: LOL... - swwit, Fri Oct 23 15:12:53 2009
- RE: Smear campaign...LOL - swwit, Fri Oct 23 15:14:38 2009
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- Come on everyone.. - swwit, Fri Oct 23 15:36:15 2009
- I wondered - lbenton, Fri Oct 23 15:37:28 2009
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- RE: LOL... - chrisdrake, Fri Oct 23 16:46:29 2009
- RE: LOL... - rpelaez, Fri Oct 23 16:48:23 2009
- RE: I wondered - chrisdrake, Fri Oct 23 16:48:59 2009
- RE: Hueco Speckling and Triples - ectimaeus, Fri Oct 23 17:11:22 2009
- RE: LOL... - Damon Salceies, Fri Oct 23 17:20:04 2009
- I NEVER! - Brad Alexander, Fri Oct 23 17:22:31 2009
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- RE: LOL... - aspidites, Fri Oct 23 17:31:31 2009
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- RE: I NEVER! - rpelaez, Fri Oct 23 17:38:34 2009
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- RE: I wondered - swwit, Fri Oct 23 17:44:54 2009
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- RE: LOL... - aspidites, Fri Oct 23 17:49:28 2009
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- RE: LOL... - aspidites, Fri Oct 23 17:53:54 2009
- Maybe this will help your polyp - rpelaez, Fri Oct 23 18:01:37 2009
- RE: Maybe this will help your polyp - aspidites, Fri Oct 23 18:09:01 2009
- RE: LOL... - swwit, Fri Oct 23 18:25:31 2009
- RE: LOL... - rpelaez, Fri Oct 23 18:36:47 2009
- RE: Hueco Speckling and Triples - chrisdrake, Fri Oct 23 19:24:36 2009
- RE: LOL... - Aaron, Fri Oct 23 19:25:18 2009
- RE: Hueco Speckling and Triples - chrisdrake, Fri Oct 23 19:28:14 2009
- RE: LOL... - swwit, Fri Oct 23 20:15:41 2009
- RE: Hueco Speckling and Triples - ectimaeus, Fri Oct 23 21:11:47 2009
- RE: Hueco Speckling and Triples - lbenton, Fri Oct 23 21:18:47 2009
- RE: Hueco Speckling and Triples - chrisdrake, Fri Oct 23 21:30:02 2009
- RE: LOL... - ectimaeus, Fri Oct 23 21:43:46 2009
- DUDE! LOL - rpelaez, Fri Oct 23 22:01:20 2009
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- RE: LOL... - JediKnight1971, Sat Oct 24 10:23:54 2009
- RE: Maybe this will help your polyp - rpelaez, Sat Oct 24 11:57:08 2009
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