They are huge... I am guessing that my biggest male and female are nearly 8ft long and have max body circumfrances of maybe 9 or 10 inches....

They tend to be fear biters so when they do connect it is generally a really fast nip as apposed to a "grab and chew". They are relativily predictable and it is easy to judge when and why they are going to get defensive so I rarely get taged... thankfully....

What an fantastic group of Pituophis.......
these are my 2008 hold backs (one is really almost completely rust colored lacking black pigment and the other is partially unrelated and has an unusual pattern in that no stripes or saddles merge along the centerline of the back leaving the snake with a cool ground color "stripe" almost for its entire length.....

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