Actually I was able to photographed that snake in the above link back in the late 90's. It was in the collection of the fellow who ultimately was responsible for us all having the nominant form P. l. lineaticollis. He was never able to get them to breed an eventually lost all of his gibsoni. That photo is very misleading as the snake was the same color as the one I posted above... Somehow during the creation of that image the basic tone quality was tweeked. The image probably gives you some idea of what an "orange" gibsoni might look like but that was not an "orange" one........

Bernd has that image posted on his Pituophis page and the original photographer was a fellow named Pat Briggs. That male was actually in bad shape and you can see his rostral scale is totally worn from cage rubbing, as well as a little maxillary bowing also from cage rubbing...... too bad.

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