I found those links in my search for information, but thank you for forwarding them to me. I guess what I really need is information on the husbandry temps,size of prey items etc...

Thanks again for all your help.

>>There is not a lot of info on gibsoni, but maybe this will help. It also features 2 pictures of the variant refered to by Ginter as the "burnt orange" type.
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>>http://www.pinesnake.de/english/pituophis/gibsoni.html
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>>And here's a range map:
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>>http://www.mexico-herps.com/category/serpentes/pituophis
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1.1 Pituophis lineaticollis lineaticollis
1.1 Black Pine
1.0 Kankakee Bull Snakes
1.2 Still Water Hypos
0.0.1 Possibly stillwater x Red Bull
2.2 N. Pinesnake
1.0 Pituophis mutt
1.0 Florida King
1.1 Eastern Kings
1.1 Black Milksnake
0.0.1 Plains Garter
1.0 Chow Chow(2003 Papi)
0.1 Cat(Shug

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