Yeah, I mentioned those a few line up. Karl got the pair from a teaching/university collection. The curator was going to kill and pickle them but Karl managed to talk them out of it. They actually laid eggs two years in a row, the first year he was not expecting it and was out of town so the eggs dried up and the 2nd year the eggs were all duds....

He ultimately ended up losing both animals....... So close and yet just out of reach....

I hope that Dieter's pair and our group are able to break the bad luck cycle with this ssp. so that they may one become as common as the nominant form....

Can't wait to see pics on your new Ansa Barrego desert group....

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