>>You say thousands. I've yet to see particularly many. As a vet tech, I tend to be a worry wort about the health of my animals, especially as so many of them have health problems.



do you mean so many snakes have health problems in general or do you mean yours have so many health problems.

I've only got around 80 snakes at this time but none of these snakes have any health problems.

corn snakes are hardy animals. If kept properly they are usually free from health problems. Most problems are results of improper husbandry.

Yes, some corns get sick and have health problems but the number of healthy corns far outnumbers the unhealthy ones.

we all worry about the health of our animals but we also have a tendency to believe experienced breeders when they try to assure us there is no danger to a snake with an aberrant pattern

In experienced breeders I am speaking of Tim Spukler and the others who tried to assure you the snake would be fine.





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>>Kink is a generic term for a spinal deformity. It's like saying "heart disease"... is it hypertrophic or dilitative cardiac myopathy? "Cancer" is a good example too. Is it a sarcoma? a carcinoma? And of those, which type? Adenocarcinoma? Fibrosarcoma? Lymphoma? Osteosarcoma? There are many potential causes for kinks, some of which can result in piebalds that were located around kinked spots in the snake's body.



still a mute point...your snake isn't kinked so it isn't an issue

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>>As to seeing every piebald? No, of course not. And neither have you. The ones that have cropped up have been greeted with hope... but they all had spinal deformities located in the piebald patch. So far as the majority of the community is aware, there is no genetic piebald corn yet.



YOU are the one that said EVERY PIEBALD TO DATE, not me.

I was only questioning the statement YOU made.





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>>So, you say there's no difference between something like Nautley and a normal runt. All right, I am perfectly willing to admit that yes, that IS the most likely. HOWEVER, what I was asking was in personal experience, hopefully with stories included, how have corns with highly abnormal patterns, which CAN be linked to underlying health issues, fared? Did they thrive? How long were they in your care? Were they fertile? You know, general signs of overall physical well being.





why do you add in "with underlying health issues"?

what underlying health issues?

are you assuming it has underlying health issues because it has an aberrant pattern or is there something you're not telling us?

we are trying to tell you that aberrant patterns are common and seen every day. To this date there are absolutely no health issues connected to these aberrant patterns. I have hatched close to a 1000 hatchlings many of which had some form of aberrancy. 1000 isn't "that" many but I've picked up a little along the way. Tim Spuckler, who told you the same thing, has probably hatched 5 or 10 times that many corns. These are normal

I don't know what else to tell you.



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>>I guess it's my fault, for being medically oriented, that I hoped to get replies with some actual backing to them.





nice little back-handed insult.

what kind of backing do you want

experience with hundreds to thousands of corns?







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>>Carol Huddleston had a motley-type animal similar to this result from a okeetee proven not het motley paired with a motley. The little one barely grew despite eating well, and ended up dying at a few months old. So here I am with my motley-ish snake and the dead one is my only example. You must admit, it's not terribly comforting.



some snakes just aren't going to make it, simple as that. Just like some dogs, cats, people, whatever, don't make it. That's nature.

You said you wanted replies with actual backing and here you are using one example to base your whole analysis on..hmm










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