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>>"still a mute point...your snake isn't kinked so it isn't an issue "

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>>The point is not moot in relation to the general idea that sometimes odd patterns have a detrimental cause. No, it is not specifically a kink, but could it be something else? Probably not, but again... paranoid.









oops "moot" point

Anyway Tim already told you, and this can be confirmed by any major breeder, experienced herpetologist, zoologist or veterinarian...the pattern/color is the last thing to develop in the egg.

Many DIE's have odd patterns and colors but that isn't why they died, that is simply because they didn't survive long enough for the colors and patterns to develop fully







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>>"why do you add in "with underlying health issues"?

>>what underlying health issues?

>>are you assuming it has underlying health issues because it has an aberrant pattern or is there something you're not telling us? "

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>>I add that because the possibility exists. There is likely a correlation between the highly aberrant patterns seen on some DIEs and the fact that they died. A genetic "oopsie" that made them inviable that could also play with the pattern. Just as with double merles and lethal white, or the tendency for white and blue-eyed animals to be deaf. Add the deformed head scales on top of the strange pattern and I have to wonder if there's something else that might not be visible.

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But that is what we have been trying to tell you. It isn't likely. To date there has been no correlation between aberrant patterns and physical or health problems.





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>>Your snakes have lovely examples of saddle fusing/zigzag, but it's not quite what I was talking about. I don't know how to explain it better. My worry is probably because he's not a zig/zag, wide stripe, or aztec. I'm used to seeing those, but not pseudo-motleys that go straight to the tail tip. Most "notleys" I've seen have been proper motley look for about... 1/3 the length of the body? If need be, think of me and my paranoia as being as if I'm from the 'planet of easily frightened people' from the old cartoon Earthworm Jim. "Aaaah! something motley! Aaaah! something not motley!"





The ones I pictured are not Aztec, zig zag or wide stripe they just have cool patterns.

Sure these patterns might not be quite as aberrant as the one you pictured but it is still just an aberrant pattern and if you care for THAT snake properly you will still have it as long as you are willing to do so.





This brings me back to the piebalds again.

You believe the kinks or spinal deformities cause the white?

I just don't think I can see that. In this case I do not have experience but it just doesn't seem to add up.

Why would these deformities only cause white spots on the few "piebald" specimens and not all corns with spinal deformities?

Piebalds seem to be connected to bloodred but not all kinked bloodreds are piebalds, have white spots at kinks and/or pattern differences.

In conjunction to that, why don't kinks or spinal deformities cause any color or pattern differences in all other corn morphs?



Along with aberrant patterns most of us have had quite a few "kinked" specimens pop up over the years. So far there has not been any evidence of spinal deformities having a connection with pattern aberrancies or anomalies



Now there might be a slight "stretching" of the skin at a kink but this only "expands" the pattern it doesn't actually change it.


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