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Posted by: DMong at Mon Nov 30 01:36:13 2009   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by DMong ]  
   

I located some documentation I saved from a post Jerry made a while back on an original wild-caught line from Mexico. Jerry can chime in later and post some pics of this bloodline that he has, and HAD from many years ago. The animals were very clean and sharp too, without a bunch of "newsprint" on the white.



It goes as follows...........



Zapotitlan Basin (Puebla, Mexico) campbelli History

As summarized by Jerry Kruse





after many years of having the adults on loan to a friend, then sold to a Long Island aquarium to be placed on display, this piece of history may very well have been gone forever. The great-grandparents of these campbelli were collected circa 1985 from the Zapotitlan Basin, Puebla, Mexico by David Blody. After having spoken to Dave several months ago, he confirmed that indeed many original animals have perished and the integrity of many lines being potentially compromised over the last decade.



The adults of these hatchlings were purchased from Don Wilson (Seven Gen. Reptiles) back in 1994/1995. The line was refined from this specific locality to produce some spectacular-looking specimens referred to as "white-coral" Pueblans, which were initially produced by Dave Blody and sold via Don Wilson for several years until Don unfortunately withdrew from the captive-breeding scene (as Don was an incredible person in many respects). Don also marketed the awesome orange Pueblans that are very infrequently seen nowadays, and which I regret selling off in 2002 in preparation for graduate studies. Luckily one of my best mates, Andy, happily took on a few white-corals to work with. I turned down the offer to take them back, looking specifically to get back into zonata. After some thought and speaking to a few mates such as Dave Blody, Shannon, and Scott Ballard, I was convinced that turning them down was a mistake due to their rich history. I endeavored for almost a year in trying to re-acquire them from the next change in hands -- Atlantis Aquarium in Long Island, NY, where they were used for an educational mimicry display.



Thanks to an understanding marine biologist by the name of Todd Gardner (now also a good friend who gives the best behind-the-scenes tours), I was able to get them back into their original owner's hands (MINE) and continue their history. Needless to say, Dave was ecstatic to learn of the fruits of my efforts.
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"


   

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