well the thing with breeding the pinesnakes is yes they will breed at 4ft. but i prefer to get them up to 5or6ft, ive never had a male be successful at under 5ft.thats northerns i havnt bred southerns. also ya mentioned southen northern cross while essentially the same snake they are defined as seperate ssp. and crossing them is frowned upon by some in the hobby, the thing that defines a northern to me is the bold hi contrast patterns while the southerns have much lighter lower contrast patterns imho both wonderful traits refined in nature and what most breeders shoot for in general when enhancing, line breeding etc. but crossing the 2 kinda imho cancel each other out, its usally one look or the other the breeder is shooting for.
at anyrate breeding your 50/50 cross with true northern will be pushing the souhern traits out but will likely still have some overall lightening effect in pattern. of course line breeding these for true northern contrast and pattern will take alot longer than keeping them true to form in the first place.
again imho its all in the look you are going for...
but many others disagree and feel crossing the ssp.is a bad thing so honestly representing any offspring as 50/50, 75/25,etc should be done for fellow hobbiest to know exactly what they are buying.
a 3ft. male and 4ft. female i would pump them up and shoot for breeding them in '11 but if the female ovulates then see if the male is up for the challenge its certainly possible, pines are great snakes.








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