Sometimes things go so far though that people turn a blind eye. There was much discussion many years ago concerning the origin of some gopher morphs. It did get a bit hot as some had established breeding groups and did not want to hear such a possibility. I recall reading some literature a little later that broke down some of the origins. I never ventured into gophers just for this reason.

I followed a thread not to long ago discussing just such a thing happening with the origin of albino hondos. Now, there are many, starting the same chatter about Brooksi, speckleds, desert and CA kings.

I've come to accept it is what it is. I have always strived to acquire and keep herps pure. Though, this hobby has come so far, with so many hands in it. It's inevitable that these practices will continue to manifest itself in some collections as it has been done so many times in the past.

I guess there is room for everyone, but I favor the purists.

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