I posted an inquiry into who could back up their labeling of their pines as "Barrens" stock. My goal was not to find "Barrens" stock pines. I lived close to the area in the 60's and 70's and not only had a nice group of them but knew of others that had some incredible reds and yellows as well in Long Island. What I was trying to find were pines from areas outside of NJ. There was a time, when I posted my inquiry, that some herpers did have pines from Georgia, NC and a few other places. Some though mixed those right into their group of NJ pines. I was hoping to acquire some of these rarer pinesnakes to work with. Never happened.

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