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bernd-d
at Tue Dec 8 09:16:15 2009 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by bernd-d ]
Hi folks!
I saw Randy Whittington's marvelous (!) hypo deppei deppei 2 posts before (Randy, sorry for misusing your snake as a reason for discussion). But in the second sight my "old problem" came back: Why is this Pit. d. deppei a Pit. d. deppei? (And no Jani) Because its parents looked like pure deppei? Because the normal color form of this snake had more blotches? Because the orgin of the ancestors was in a pure Pit. d. deppei distribution area?
To remember - we (normally) still differ in Deppei (!) and Jani because of blotch count (body and tail) over 40 and a distance of less than 5 scales between the first two neck blotches - and a little in coloration (e.g. Stull 1940, Lemos Espinal & Smith 2007). If you have better sources - please help me out!
Randy - I hope you'll hate me not for this heretical question.
Why do those rules of the older and younger herpetologists sometimes do not fit to our "pets" or finds? Because of the large intergrade area between the ssp. Deppei and Jani?
I still hope for the paper (still in review) of Dr. Stanford about the Mexican Pituophis ...
What is your sight of the facts, please ????????????
Best wishes from Germany 
Bernd www.pinesnake.de
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How to identifiy a deppei ?? - bernd-d, Tue Dec 8 09:16:15 2009
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