return to main index

  market - home
follow us on facebook follow us on twitter link to us on LinkedIn
 
Click for 65% off Shipping with Reptiles 2 You
Locate a business by name: click to list your business
search the classifieds. buy an account
events by zip code list an event
Search the forums             Search in:
News & Events: UGA Study shows pathogens threaten snakes survival in Southern US . . . . . . . . . .  First time Sea Turtle nesting in Florida . . . . . . . . . .  New regulations on Native Species for Wisconsin Keepers . . . . . . . . . .  Heavy Metal Scorpion . . . . . . . . . .  How a python change the course of Attenbourgh's life . . . . . . . . . .  Make good choices . . . . . . . . . .  Burmese found on roadside in Wisconsin raises issues . . . . . . . . . .  Happy Earth Day . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake Merch Store . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake returns to Tinley . . . . . . . . . .  kingsnake.com joins Monitor Brains! . . . . . . . . . .  Sneak Peek . . . . . . . . . .  Amphibian gut bacteria showing promise in cancer research . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Meet The Baroness - The world's longest snake . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Updates? . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  The mechanics behind the viper strike . . . . . . . . . .  Snakes on a Train? . . . . . . . . . .  Tracking the animals in the Florida Everglades - Meet the Croc Docs . . . . . . . . . .  Reintroduction attempts give San Francisco Garter a second chance . . . . . . . . . .  Promoting Reptiles is Our Jam Man . . . . . . . . . .  Origins of Chytrid discovered . . . . . . . . . .  Wisdom Wednesday - The Forums - The water is warm... Come on in! . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake.com Past, Present and Future . . . . . . . . . .  IHS Celebrates 50 years . . . . . . . . . .  End of January 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Fun Fact Friday - Green Tree Monitor . . . . . . . . . .  CRE - Jun. 20-21, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Colorado Herp Society Meeting - June 20, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Chicago Herpetological Society Meeting - June 21, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Bay Area Herpetological Society Meeting - June 26, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Tinley NARBC June - Jun 27-28 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  DFW Herp Society Meeting - June 27, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Greater Cincinnati Herp Society Meeting - July 01, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Reptile Super Show & LA Pet Fair - July 11-12 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  PACNWRS - Jul. 11-12, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Colorado Herp Society Meeting - July 18, 2026 . . . . . . . . . . 

RE: Big snake bill

[ Login ] [ User Prefs ] [ Search Forums ] [ Back to Main Page ] [ Back to Cyclura & Ctenosaura ]

Posted by: Manny at Wed Dec 30 14:18:50 2009   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by Manny ]  
   

Kevin has many valid points. The truth is that we have many problems with invasive exotics here in Florida and a lot of people are to blame, including Wholesalers. In regards to the Burmese pythons, as much as I would hate to admit it, there is a HUGE problem. They are everywhere. I could go out and catch 3 or 4 a night if I wanted to right now, having the proper permits to do so for State lands. In my theory, Wholesalers are partly to blame and so is the Florida Fish and Wildlife Service along with people who bought them. When I was growing up in the 80s and early 90s, Burmeses were a scarce snake in contrast to today. Those who bred them made a good amount of money. Then all of a sudden,they started importing them by the thousands and how could a breeder compete against someone selling a baby Burmese for $30. The wholesalers killed the market. Now since the animal is so cheap to aquire and so expensive to maintain, it becomes very hard to get rid of and people let them go in lieu of spending the effort of finding it a home or euthanizing them. Same with the common iguanas. In the 80s the only place you would find feral iguanas is near the airports and where there were wholesalers. Or on the Crandon Park Zoo grounds because the entities that owned it let them go for ignorant reasons. Back then I would get $10 to $15 per baby wholesale. Now I can’t move them for $4 because they are so heavily imported at less than $2 each. If they had some significant value, people would think twice on letting one go in lieu of selling it. This is just a little bit. I can go on and on with different species. Nile Monitors in Ft. Myers, Red Head Agamas, Spinney tailed Iguanas, Boas, Ameivas,…

Everything needs balance! Without balance there will be demise. We as reptile enthusiasts need to stop bickering amongst ourselves and start looking at solutions that will benefit and balance all aspects of our industry while protecting the natural environment and our freedoms. And the way this is done is by regulation and good standards. If we don’t start regulating ourselves, someone who is ignorant about our passions will regulate it for us and take away our rights.

This whole thing is very complicated and we will not be fixing it on this forum. If we need to have a debate then let’s debate! I don’t agree with everything that Kevin wrote and I don’t agree with everything that Tom wrote. But we shouldn’t be bashing each other for our beliefs and then trying to show why we are right because of how much experience we have. No one person knows everything !





   

[ Show Entire Thread ]


>> Next Message:  RE: Big snake bill - colaris, Wed Dec 30 14:35:03 2009
>> Next Message:  RE: Big snake bill - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Wed Dec 30 15:42:48 2009
>> Next Message:  RE: Big snake bill - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Wed Dec 30 16:27:28 2009

<< Previous Message:  RE: Big snake bill - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Wed Dec 30 05:30:55 2009

Click for 65% off Shipping with Reptiles 2 You Click here for Dragon Serpents Click here to visit Classifieds
KINGSNAKE.COM

Enjoy all our content free of charge with a user account that gives you full access to every feature. For added visibility, paid options are available - post in our Classifieds, showcase your business with Banner Ads or a Directory listing, promote reptile events, and more.

Quick Links
Community
Legal & Safety
Support

Register for free ✓ Sign up!

Kingsnake.com ® is a registered trademark © 1997-