I like the way no one has responded to statements only only given there emotionaly based feel good epinions. First and formost I would like to state that I am not for the berms to be in the everglades and that I am very much an environmentalist just that I base my opinions on fact and experience not on emotion or if it make me feel good.

Brian you thru out so much stuff it would take a 4 hour conversation in person to cover it all if you want to chat we can do it at daytona, but I'll comment about the things related to my first post. First off to refer to problems as all of florida is way off base almost the entire envasive problem is so florida that is below the lake. The land below the lake is a completely altered habitat and invasive reptiles are a grain of sand on a beach. Green anoles are one of the few species that are uncommon now because invasives and that is only in the south because they are more cold tollarent then the brown anoles. The brown anoles presence it not ralated to the pet trade at all they are a product of the shipping industry over the last 200 years just like rats. When a box gets shipped from the bahamas eggs and anoles are present and were unintentialy introduced and it was an inevitability with human movement. They don't have any effect on the environment because they eat the same thins and are eaten by the same things. It is 200 years to late to want to impose laws on the nursery or fish industry because it will have 0% effect now because what will go crazy already has and and now you are closing the barn door after the horses are out, but new laws would make you feel good but are a waist of energy. again it it is a south florida thing. I agree south florida is a mess but it is futile to try to "fix" it mother nature will erase all our mistakes in due time. For now lets keep it clean and watch for thing that might get out of control.

Creaturemd you did not address any of my questions please do so instead of saying I don't care about the world as long as I can aquire any animal I want.

Now as far as the statement that I don't care about native wildlife the point I was making is that almost all the wildlife in the evergaldes are animals that historicly move in and out as the water moves in and out they are not endemic animals most are gators, deer, possums, raccoons, foxes, bobcats, panthers, and birds the most common of which is the envasive cattle egret who eats native snakes, and lizards but they are protected because they are pretty.

All of south florida will be under water or high and dry and colder in the next 10,000 years or so and most of the problems we are worred about will be solved.

Florida is dealing with the problems of big snakes and passing national or other state (not in florida) laws is completely unproductive and a waist of everyones time (except those who have other agendas) and money and will have NO effect on the problems of so florida. We need to stop doing things because they are easy or they make you feel good and start doing things that will make a difference.

Again if we all want to hang out at NRBA and chat I am up for that bacause this is a long conversation and difficult to convey in writting.

Rob

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