Doug, its easy to anonymously call someone out of the hobby 5 years a closet hybridizer but that doesnt mean he didnt have pure snakes. He was the first and only one with patternless LA milks, he had anery LA milks too....pure locality and both of those strains are gone from the hobby. He may have messed around with kingsnakes, but the TIMING of the pueblan and Hondo gene coming out...basically makes it impossible for them to be hybrids. It would have taken a minimum of 2 generations for this to happen and thats dog years in morph terms. Add to that Bayou reptiles got them at the same time....Now later on they could have been hybridized, but I think if you look at the body type NOT THE PATTERN, and the size you will realize they dont resemble Hondos at all. You wont see a 4' hypo pueb, and 4' hypo hondos are small.

Further, I really hate when guys claim something a hybrid on here with absolutely NO proof! Do your homework! If you werent around when they first hatched out whose fault is that? I had this really really neat line of Yellow ratsnakes that had 3(!!)recessive genes in the lines(Albino, lav albino and anery)and got rid of them not because they werent PURE(I can trace both sides back to wc morphs!)but because of this type of crappy rhetoric. Breeding is too easy, there are some guys that cut corners and misrepresent. Anyone standing on a Hondo morph's purity knows this I hope. One more reason I stay FAR away from Hondos....Its not all in what you see, thats the reason we like milks....variability.

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