Gentlemen, I appreciate the back and forth and I'm sure there is merit to both sides of the issue. Simply the ability to debate different points of view without extreme hostility and vitriol is refreshing.

My take is, you're both right. I see it most recently as an unholy alliance. An unwritten truce, where the industrialists and the institutional naturalists are carving up the planet between themselves and leaving the little guy out. The institutional naturalists are corporations just like the capitalist industrialists are. Corporate speaks to corporate. Corporate understands corporate speak. They understand one another. The individual gets left out. Just my take on the direction things are going.

Thanks,

jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"

John Crickmer

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