Brad,

"Skeptics"...More platitudes...

By the way, more and more of the "skeptics" are climatologists and many many more "scientists"...And the list continues to grow as more and more of their "science" is "revealed"...The list even includes the IPCC! I wonder if they'll give that Nobel Prize back?

This isn't a question of right or wrong Brad...It's about the implentation of a "socialist society" on an unprecendented scope and scale and even though what we have been discussing for these past few days is not directly related to herping per se, this is part of H.R.669, S.373, the Lacey Act, the Endangered Species Act, etc, etc, etc. Whether you realize it or not, they are all connected Brad.

As I have asked you before, why is the USGS involved in reptiles? Why is the USEPS involved in ecosystems? Why is the USFWS involved in the Department of Defense or the Department of Energy? One of the reasons for all of these questions Brad, is because they ARE all connected with multi-layered programs with tax payer expenditures buried in bills that you have no idea about nor seem to care.

Do you realize Brad, that once congress passes that increase in the debt ceiling (1.9 trillion dollars), the federal deficit will go to almost 14 TRILLION DOLLARS! At the end of the last fiscal year (the BUSH presidency), the federal deficit was between 5-6 TRILLION DOLLARS. Do the math Brad, in just 12 months, this congress and this president will have doubled the ENTIRE FEDERAL DEFICIT SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE COUNTRY!!!! Do you have any idea about how much in taxes our government is soon going to demand from everyone of us in the next two years?

Do you have any idea about why the "banks" and "hedge funds' were too big to fail? Its because they are "partners" with the government bureaucracies in implenting the politics of change...They've been buying up America in 100's of 1,000's of acres at a time as and creating TIMO's and REIT's (you can go look these up for yourself) and converting our nation's timberlands into investment portfolio's. Why was a past (Henry M. Paulson-recognize that name?) and current president of The Nature Conservancy from Goldman Sachs? These are just part of the financial "partnerships" with government bureaucracies and other "affilated" private organizations such as the Defenders of Wildlife, the Conservation Fund, etc...Don't believe me? Why don't you research what's been happening in the Adirondacks Brad? In other words Brad, there will still be "profits" generated from pulpwood and timber but, it will not be going to IP and Boise Cascade...Rather the "profits" will go to "hedge fund" managers who are also going to "profit" once cap and trade goes into effect...Don't believe me? Who do you think is lobbying congress to get it passed? By the way, did you know that 84.5% of the entire state of Nevada is OWNED by the federal government? Why Brad?

Not that it matters Brad but go read the definition of "socialism" in the dictionary...You'll find something like this...The public control of the means of production, distribution amd exchange and if you have one of the larger dictionaries, you'll find this as well...The stage of economics between capitalism and COMMUNISM! In case this doesn't sink in to you, what are H.R.669 or S.373 in reality? It's about "public control of the means of distribution" Brad - in this case its animals...If you question this, ask yourself this question, will H.R.669 or S.373 actually accomplish their stated purpose? In other words, will they stop the "non-native, invasive species"? The answer is NO.

Why Brad? Two reasons...1) nature itself and 2) mankind.

To explain further, ever seen what insects (not to mention microscopic organisms as some NAFTA countries use human waste as fertilizer) travel into this country every single day via foreign trade? My brother served in the Coast Guard and you should see what's crawling around in the holds of ships or on the docks when the fruits and vegetables are off loaded. So much for USFWS ports of entry, EVERY port is a port of entry Brad...If nothing else, how many times have we heard about E.coli outbreaks in the US (they will continue occurring on a regular basis)? The USDA spends too much money BUYING LAND (why are they buying the land Brad?) as opposed to inspecting our food supply. Any idea what migratory birds carry in their feathers or in their intestines, and leave behind here, as they stop in America along the way? What is the government doing about this Brad? What CAN they do Brad? Now, factor in the FACT that science and zoos bring all kinds of "non-native, invasive species" into the US every day (some of the world's deadliest diseases are in labs within the US right now-where did they come from) for scientific purposes and zoo or museum exhibits...Only they are the only ones permitted to posses non-native invasive species and we will not (anymore than we will be able to cut down a tree in our own backyard).

Who will have "exclusive access" to these non-native invasive species...It does not include either you or me Brad. Eventually, the only animals that you will see will be those that the select group of individuals are permitted to handle, care and breed these animals in zoos or handle in the wild or see on NatGeo, Animal Planet, etc, etc, etc...

Why did the USEPA classify CO2 as an "air pollutant" Brad? Why is Cap and Trade so important Brad? Here's a clue (and I mentioned this to you in an earlier post-which if you read, didn't sink in), they plan to institute a tax on CO2 Brad and cattle, horses, etc, don't pay taxes...So who do you think is going to be paying these taxes Brad? They are bouncing around two possibilities Brad, one of them is taxing the air we exhale (an individual permit per person) or creating a new market of trading in carbon credits (CO2 and its sequestration in the trees). These ideas are being published in papers from professors (and being written into bills by lobbyists) at the same universities, organizations, experts, bureaucracies, etc that are participants East Anglia emails Brad! Go back and read some of the "links" that I provided to you earlier...

Why do you think NASA has scrubbed the space station/shuttle program? At least one of the reasons is so they can direct more money into "climatology" and climate change Brad. Where do you think they get the planetary data from?

Think of this as the leg bone connected to the...Non-native invasive species is found within the Convention on Biodiversity (CBD) in articles 8 and 9...The US signed (Madeleine Albright) in 1993 but the senate has never ratified that "treaty"...But, government agencies are enacting its tenents even as we speak...How do I know this? The Everglades National Park is both a Biosphere Reserve and a World Heritage Site...The CBD is found in BOTH of these UN programs Brad. Don't believe me, go find them and read them for yourself...

You "blissfully" and "ignorantly" stick to your alphabet news, et al...

I think I already answered your question Brad…You really should read what I said…

“I mean, in the overall time line of earth our existence amounts to only a few seconds – and there were numerous instances of dramatic changes in the earth’s temperatures and even its atmosphere without humans. Besides, in the overall scheme of life on earth, who says that dominant life in the future has to be human anyway? Only we humans could come up with such an absurdity. If the earth suddenly warmed/cooled itself by just 5 deg F (much greater temperature variations have occurred in the earth's past-without the impact of humans), what could we do about it? The answer is absolutely nothing. If that was to occur, we would be confronted with natural selection and the law of nature up-close and very personal (we are animals after all)…

When and if that occurs, NO GOVERNMENT ON THIS PLANET CAN PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING NOR WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AFTER IT HAPPENED…The scale of genocide, in order to survive, would be incalculable and would be the closest thing to Armageddon that we humans could think of (short of nuclear winter) on earth…”

Later,
Jim.

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CSRAJim

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