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RE: Lineage and Locality - What and Why?

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Posted by: Jeff Schofield at Wed Feb 24 21:33:32 2010   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by Jeff Schofield ]  
   

Dell, we have had a few posts in the past "at what point is locality lost?". Continued inbreeding within a time capsule is not locality to me. For example, 15 years ago St Marys co Coastals had very little head pattern..I would estimate only 10-20% had any. Calvert Co right next door it was almost 100% head pattern(mostly spots over eyes). Skip forward only a few years and now the % of head pattern has gone up dramatically(pics of specimens online anyways)to maybe 50-60% head pattern. Natural or man-made? Locality or interbreeding?? See, there is no way to compare a time capsule to what is actually happening at that same locale now.So you and I can have animals from the exact same locale but because they were collected at different times they actually look different. So I ask you what value is that name?? At some point locale is lost, without question. When its lost varies from keeper to keeper I believe.

Now to the other question, would I breed my Monsters with other milks?? It is a case by case basis....let me explain. I think the most interesting part of these is the locality...til I found morphs. I think morph breeding removes all locality relavence. To reproduce morphs you HAVE to inbreed, to keep what I consider locality stock you have to continue to add new blood(outbreed). If I have a albino from there and no mate I would certainly breed it rather than risk losing that gene forever. Joe has an albino, and breeding that to a Monster could help increase the size of hatchlings and adults...so I'd say yes to that too. Would I breed a Monster to a "normal" mainland E.milk? No, when establishing this population it took me years to get both sexes established and I was never tempted to taint them because I do value locality. Now having bred them several times, having a established population their uniqueness I have covered. Now lets say I have an exceptional female "green" E. milk from the mainland, I might be tempted to breed them to my Green to see if its genetic. If I had a green version of a red milk without a mate, I would have to seriously think about it. Would I breed them with a red or coastal to incorperate the size into other lines, no. But others would.

So you can draw your line in the invisible sand at a different spot, no one is right. But as long as the locale is available, why not? I mean, Cherry co. pales are everywhere...some of em are REAL nice. If I had a REAL nice Gentilis without the hope of a mate....I might be tempted to breed them. But that is also why its important to communicate, to make available our unused breeders to others. Remember this is how we got the hypo line of red milks. Am I right or am I right??


   

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