temps....yes you can tell county by looking at them (usually)...none are perfect....example of that...are the St Mary's with a tinted orange to the white...I have one...her mother has it and I didn't want it....I wanted dark red and pure white...but you cannot tell at birth.......the male is screaming dark.....



.......they just look cetain ways usually......can't explain it......is it due to the fact that alot are related in captivity?....heck yea.......but 20 years ago I saw my first glimpse of St Mary's at SerpenCo in Baltimore...he had screaming temps......white!....then I see them at the MARS show like 15 years ago...saw a bunch...you could tell Calvert's...wider spacing and banding......I see alot at Susquehanna Ectotherms......mary bands more II II calvert's more V V ....tapered....LOL....



the Ocean Co Jerseys are orange....I like them anyways....the striping adds something....I am not into striped stuff usually....but they are cool....(like sinaloae or anulata...I want perfect bands...and when I had striped hondos in like 95? I sold them to Bell...didn't make anymore after that)...



....rambling.....at MARS like 15 years ago....we tried to talk to Markel about adding the temps back into subspeices list....(I asked why people like Ken W couldn't help) (he said..." he took it off"...)...Markel did say that "today I did see many fine examples of the differences in temps and all..and why they should be seperated"...(like that not -for word)......there was more around back then....



.....western guys can tell you what state pales are from , reds....celaenops.....I got 4 red locals.....they are all the same yet all different....and cute......wish they grew a little faster.....man....and I fed twice or three times a week....



...on the no way different hand...I have seen eatern milks from the same county with like 5 different color types....all you gotta do is drive a couple miles at the one place....they turn orangey....



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