>>We keep thayeri though John, which were probably of mixed decent to begin with - you had pure ones? I have to laugh these folks that have this awesome snake and suddenly they find out that either a) it wasn't what they thought it was or b) there was no way to trace the snake back to the wild and all the sudden they didn't like their snake anymore, or it isn't fun anymore and it's all Joe's fault because he won't put me on the locality alterna breeder's list.
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>>I have a couple really cool snakes that I have no idea where they came from, but I'm not posting them as pure thayeri. What is a pure thayeri? One from TAMPS? One from Chorro, or one from Aramberri? Or Maybe none of those? BTW a name is a line and not a locality, so who cares if it came from Lemke, or Ruiz, or Vivid, none of those are localities.
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>>The problem I think is people spending too much time on the internet. These are live animals, the owners need to release the stigma attached to line bred snakes or snakes which without traceable origins.
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>>Now if a single person would show some freaking documentation to back something up once in a while, that would be too good. No - we just have some BS story about a Geologist who was cruising through the glass mtns one night and found three alterna in one night. right.... Oh I forgot his name too....
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>>cough cough BS
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>>Fine write the freaking story down so when your friend Todd tells it to a customer and says it was him catching the alterna down by Big Bend Joe won't have to call BS when you change the name and date a little bit to make a few sales.
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>>That's the kind of Bull that takes the fun out of it.
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>>I still think these folks don't even like snakes, they just see dollar signs and want to make money. Is that why you are so attracted to abnormal or aberrant specimens? My absolute favorite snake is one I got from Greg because it's a carbon copy of a snake I flipped a couple years ago down there. Only half the lineage traceable, so what???
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>>I know you really like the snakes John, and not in it just for money, but it's really obvious those dealers that are not like you.


I know what you mean Joe....
I did say "I KNOW I had pure (as it can get in the hobby nowadays) thayeri."
I know we have a hodge-podge of localities that may just be crosses between different subspecies....But not all of the subspecies are recognized as subspecies yet.....They may never be......

The only reason I like aberrant or abnormal specimens is because I was jaded with producing the same thing over and over back in the late 90s and early 00s.....I'm excited about the aberrant Ruthveni, Granite Mex Mex and the one aberrant thayeri I have.....It sure makes it even funner to wonder what will emerge from their eggs.....Sorta like the feeling I get when thayeri eggs hatch but multiply that by 10....LOL
It's not about making money.....I have a VERY GOOD six digit a year job that I can never quit.....hehehehe

And I agree with you all too much about BS stories created to make a dollar....and it DOES take the fun out of it.....
But the way the market is these folks think they have to make up a story of lineage or they cannot sell a snake....It HAS come down to that for some folks imho......Not for me....I just convey what has been told to me...The buyer will have to make his/her own personal judgement.....
Which is why I sure wish we could bring some kingsnakes from Mexico over the border......
Why don't you take care of that problem for us Joe?.....lol

Thanks for the conversation Joe.....

I guess my sole purpose to start this thread was to get something going on this forum....and it kinda worked.....
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John Lassiter
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