>>I would want to know as much as I can before making a guess based on a crappy photo.
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>>John it gets much worse, there are circumstances when you have a live snake in your hand, with a valid locality, and you still can't say with authority what it is.

That is a picture of an Amel Ruthveni crossed with a L. m. mexicana.....It amazingly looks similar to a thayeri.....
Just a little, tiny bit of evidence that perhaps there IS geneflow from south to north in Mexico....And that there just may be a grandfather kingsnake species....Ruthveni....

And I know what you mean by judging a snake on looks alone....It certainly is difficult/almost impossible unless you collected it yourself...With Mexicana we don't have that luxury.....We have what we have and a bunch of stories to try and back it up.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
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