"These same mechanisms help prevent reptiles indigenous to more temperate climates from freezing every winter. I hibernate a number of Eastern box turtles outside every winter here in central VA, and have been monitoring temperatures in the hibernacula for a couple of winters now. While temperatures may drop in to the single digits, temperatures under just a few inches of leaves remain stable in the 40 F range."

According to you, you are just now learning what most of us have known for 30, 40, or more years. What's your point? Are you some sort of Jr. Ranger Rick or something? Your point of view suggests (rather lamely) sympathy to the regulators' agenda? What's that all about? Are you idealistic and naive, or are you one of them? I'm going to guess some academic wanna-be.

jsc

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