return to main index

  market - home
follow us on facebook follow us on twitter link to us on LinkedIn
 
DM Exotics Youtube
Locate a business by name: click to list your business
search the classifieds. buy an account
events by zip code list an event
Search the forums             Search in:
News & Events: Kingsnake out and about this weekend . . . . . . . . . .  NARBC shows how the reptile community comes together . . . . . . . . . .  kingsnake.com is coming to Tinley NARBC . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake battles a Rattlesnake . . . . . . . . . .  An Educational Roundup? . . . . . . . . . .  The battle for survival for the Ibiza wall lizards . . . . . . . . . .  Bringing back the Horned Lizard . . . . . . . . . .  UGA Study shows pathogens threaten snakes survival in Southern US . . . . . . . . . .  First time Sea Turtle nesting in Florida . . . . . . . . . .  New regulations on Native Species for Wisconsin Keepers . . . . . . . . . .  Heavy Metal Scorpion . . . . . . . . . .  How a python change the course of Attenbourgh's life . . . . . . . . . .  Make good choices . . . . . . . . . .  Burmese found on roadside in Wisconsin raises issues . . . . . . . . . .  Happy Earth Day . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake Merch Store . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake returns to Tinley . . . . . . . . . .  kingsnake.com joins Monitor Brains! . . . . . . . . . .  Sneak Peek . . . . . . . . . .  Amphibian gut bacteria showing promise in cancer research . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Meet The Baroness - The world's longest snake . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Updates? . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  The mechanics behind the viper strike . . . . . . . . . .  Snakes on a Train? . . . . . . . . . .  Tracking the animals in the Florida Everglades - Meet the Croc Docs . . . . . . . . . .  Reintroduction attempts give San Francisco Garter a second chance . . . . . . . . . .  Reptile Super Show & LA Pet Fair - July 11-12 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  PACNWRS - Jul. 11-12, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Colorado Herp Society Meeting - July 18, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Chicago Herpetological Society Meeting - July 19, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Bay Area Herpetological Society Meeting - July 24, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  DFW Herp Society Meeting - July 25, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Tucson Herpetological Society Meeting - July 27, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Greater Cincinnati Herp Society Meeting - Aug 05, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  PACNWRS - Aug. 15-16, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Colorado Herp Society Meeting - Aug 15, 2026 . . . . . . . . . . 

There's a lot more to it than just one aspect, in my opinion,..

[ Login ] [ User Prefs ] [ Search Forums ] [ Back to Main Page ] [ Back to Burmese Pythons ]

Posted by: BrianSmith at Fri Sep 26 15:53:15 2003   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by BrianSmith ]  
   

I have some hybrids (rock/ burmese) but am not just "pro-hybrid" because of this. There are some hybrids that I am supportive of,. and other hybrids that I am appalled by when people produce them. In the case of the rock/burmese or burmese/retic hybrids, I feel that it is a good thing in many ways. I understand completely what you are saying when you point out that unknown hybrids can polute the gene pool. But I would not go so far as to call them "mutts". In this case they are a cut above and truly very interesting. Especially in the case of the burmese/rock hybrids which are pythons from different continents. But one of the possible upsides that I can see is that with more designer breeding like this it may have a positive effect on wild caught/importation,. which I am mostly opposed to. Also, these animals are much more expensive and thus are much more likely to not be viewed as "expendable" or to be purchased by the type of person that would abandon them when they reach 10 feet. Not impossible, but much less likely. And I like this aspect. Also,.. the hybrids offer people an oportunity to experience a rock python, without the outright aggressive behavior. All of my hybrids and all that I have seen have the more passive burmese demeanor.



Now,. the hybrids that I am greatly opposed to are the ones that involve an animal that is either extinct in the wild, close to extinction, or is virtually unobtainable in the pet trade. A perfect example of a species that many are hybridizing are the hogg island boas. They are completely extinct in the wild and their captive counterparts should be kept as pure as possible as a result. There are no more contributing genes to be had from the wild and with too much cross breeding the true species can be lost forever. I just can't believe it when I hear that a breeder crossed his or her hogg with a colombian so as to make pinker babies. Or an albino hogg. I am just appalled. In just a few years pure hoggs will be worth 10 times what an albino hogg cross would be worth. The same goes with the diamond/jungle crosses. I think that the diamond blood should not be toyed with. They are a rare and hard to get animal and should be kept pure.



I personally think that more responsibility should be taken by breeders and herpers in the herp trade in general to keep any hybrids accounted for. But unfortunately I can't realistically see this happening. So all I can do is post my opinion and to do whatever I personally can do with the hybrids that I produce to ensure that they are never mistaken for a pure species.





>>I'm glad someone got it.... Sorry I just don't see the point to hybrids, sure it might be a cool "conversation piece" but I just can't see jeporadizing the gene pool by artificially creating these "mutts" and then to further breed them with each other or other species is even more puzzling - but I guess I am new to this and should just sit quietly! As far as I know, Burmese can produce upwards of 50 eggs so potentially from one hybrid mating 50 "bat eaters" could be produced? Where do all these animals go? These ain't little "jungle corns" that can live their whole life in a shoebox rack! And the way Burmese and other giant snakes are passed around when people tire of them, it would be easy for "mixed breed" snakes to be represented as purebreds and there goes the gene pool!Especially when they look so similar to regular Burms like that animal that was pictured (are you sure that is a hybrid? ) At least Albinos, Greens, Granites etc. are all still pure Burmese and will readily produce normal offspring if not carefully mated to the right partner.

>>Hey, just my 2 cents, don't anyone get their panties in a bunch - Dumergirl
-----
True "power" is not to be found in social or economic placement or stature, which are merely illusory, finite, frail and brief.

True power is to be found in one's sheer will and personal determination to achieve one's goals at ANY cost and at ANY sacrifice.


   

[ Hide Replies ]


>> Next topic:  Updated Pic, Gravid Dwarf Burm......... - morphspecialties, Sun Sep 21 21:05:10 2003
<< Previous topic:  Please help - lexxxx300, Sun Sep 21 10:47:45 2003

DM Exotics Youtube Click here to visit Classifieds Click to visit DM Exotics
KINGSNAKE.COM

Enjoy all our content free of charge with a user account that gives you full access to every feature. For added visibility, paid options are available - post in our Classifieds, showcase your business with Banner Ads or a Directory listing, promote reptile events, and more.

Quick Links
Community
Legal & Safety
Support

Register for free ✓ Sign up!

Kingsnake.com ® is a registered trademark © 1997-