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RE: Yes, Still Awake, and Comments

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Posted by: monklet at Tue Mar 30 13:22:17 2010   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by monklet ]  
   

Gave this one up for dead.



Anyway, I'm not one to dismiss categorically your assertions Ameron but you've gone out on a limb again here with at least a couple statements.



"I've known many instances of my snakes TREMENDOUSLY enjoying being caressed & massaged"



This may be so, that they enjoy the sensation, but we have no way of actually proving that...of course, it's also pretty hard to prove that one's lover truly enjoys one's affections. Maybe all that moaning and groaning is just an instinctive response...and in fact, it may well be.



"State biologists in AZ reported a mountain kingsnake that would crawl out into the open to briefly expose himself to nesting birds. The birds attacked him to defend their nests, and he would run for cover. Then, safely concealed, he watched the birds to see which trees they flew up into, and followed them to raid their nests!"



Ok, now this reeks of anecdotal non-science. Why? Just because it's obvious how difficult, if not impossible, it would be to determine that snakes intentions. Can you please offer a link to any more information about this? I'm very interested in the observations and maybe there was actually some science applied to it, in which case it would be fascinating, if only food for thought.



Otherwise, as you might guess, I'm certainly open to the possibility that animals possess more complex cognitive process than we have traditionally given them credit for, but let's be wary of allowing pendulum to swing to far toward the irreponsibly credulous.



Fascinating topic for discussion if approached critically but at the same time, with and open mind.
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