But I couldn't make either of those plethodon IDs match with my photo and my fieldguide, thus the mistake on my end. Clearly the pic was sufficient for you. Thanks again.

The salamanders were interesting because where I grew up and live now, the only salamanders (though very common) are very small ravine salamanders terrestrially and two lined in the creeks. It was fun to see the brightly colored cave salamanders and to hold the bigger slimy, even if my fingers were stuck together for the rest of the afternoon. .

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