John I hope I did not offend you if I did I apologize.There are some turtle people that do care.You live here in Texas you do know for a fact the outcome of a few that overwhelemed the system here in Texas .Now we all have sufford.Even tho I never liked people catching thousands of box turtles for market.I never minded people who knew how to care for them catching them and keeping them.The money got in the way of proper care for a few of them and it hurt the whole reptile community in Texas.I am glad that some of the other reptile lovers do see this for what it is .It is a shake down ram job deep penatration dry with no kiss or even a reach around.Sorry maybe to graphic.I keep venomous reptiles and a caimen and a couple of toads in my collection.In a day or 2 I have to go pick up a desert box turtle that is only 2 inches long and it will be a keeper,no pythons.I see this as a stepping stone to many more bans.If this goes thru we are at there mercy and they know it .Every one needs to comment by tuesday and we all need to stand togather.This Steff person seems to have an agenda anti herp is all I can say.There is a group of box turtle elitests here in Texas that pushed for the ban here yet they want to continue haveing 35 box turtles in there back yard but do not want you to own anything its crazy we are all in the same boat ..
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Archie Bottoms

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