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anthony james mc
at Sat May 15 12:39:36 2010 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by anthony james mc ]
True that , BUT I never said you would hatch a Mojave out of a Mystic x Normal clutch either.. What I said is the 2 morphs DO look enough alike that it can be hard to tell the difference between them as clutchmates. I have bred Mystic to Mojave several times already and you can have REALLY DARK MOJAVES that look as much like Mystics as they do ugly Mojaves and I also think you can have Mystics that are so light that they look like Mojaves BUT THEY ARE NOT they are just light Mystics instead. They are 2 different Morphs Trust me I know , the Mystic was my project remember! Why are they different morphs or a variation of the same gene actually because the Supers are different looking so they must be different morphs that is why. BUT as single genes some of this stuff is VERY MUCH the same looking , so much so that people may end up having to keep stuff to raise up and breed out to see what kind of Super it makes. IF a dark one with low side blushing ends up making a Potion instead of a Super Mystic then that would indicate it's actually just a dark ,ugly Mojave and not a Mystic at all , why because if it was a Mystic instead you would have made a Super Mystic (assuming you hit a Super so you proved it)..
So no a Mojave isn't going to hatch out of a Mystic clutch or a lesser from a Mojave clutch that is true, can't happen, different genes each are for sure.. BUT what some of you are forgetting is that these snakes are not born with labels in their mouths and YES it is possible that some of the VERY similiar stuff will LOOK about identical again they can't be genetically BUT the can be visually that is the point I was trying to make ..
Why don't you ask someone else that's seen babies from say a Mystic x Mojave breeding and I think you'll find out that every now and then you get a clutch where they all look like peas in a pod (maybe not at 500 grms BUT they aren't born at 500 grms are they) and it's not easy to tell the 2 similiar genes apart all the time. If you breed a Super Light Mystic to a average or maybe even slightly darker than average Mojave just for example it's VERY possible to make Dark Mojaves that to most people would look as much like a classic Mystic, they still would be Mojaves in the end as they don't change genetically . BUT VISUALLY sure would look close enough to a Mystic that people may have a ?? on that tub until they breed it out to know later.
It will be interesting to see if the Mystic Potion makes things even more complicated in that fashion or not. I personally think it easily could make it tough to say in a few cases in a clutch if you made a mystic or a mojave as I agree it must be one or the other they aren't the same genetically. The problem again is that a really dark Mojave sure can "look" visually just like a average Mystic ( it still is a Mojave just isn't obvious to tell) and a very light Mystic sure could be mistaken for a average Mojave just the same (still is a Mystic but looks like both visually at least at birth, with age it should become easier to tell which you have )! People have seen this already folks , this isn't just what I think , it's happened other than here already.
So it's not a simple answer all the time! The genes are the genes and are seperate on paper genetically but like I said you can have problems VISUALLY telling what you have for sure in the case of the Mystic and Mojave stuff as that's happened already! Others have had a baby or two that are questionable ( example : dark Mojave or pretty Mystic with lighter than usually color , looks to be way dark for a Mojo yet to light for a Mystic? ) and will just keep it till it's more obvious or they will just breed it out later so it just gets held back and bred out later, no big deal, you find out LATER what it is based on it's future Super offspring . THAT is the BEST way to say which it is any day of the week anyhow , shows me the Super! Make a Potion with it and you have Mojave in there , make a Super Mystic then it was not a Mojave at any time regardless of what it looked to be visually..
Anthony McCain
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