I can't believe the slander being put out here. This kind of crap should get the people behind this sued or charged with a crime. I feel that anytime anyone uses this kind of false representation to get people to sign to support a law they should be held legally responsible for deliberately misleading people.

To me it is never moral or OK to misrepresent the truth and especially not OK to do it to cause harm to any other person or group of people.

Although I do not keep any reptiles anymore at this time due to the laws that got past in TX on keeping box turtles I still support reptile/animal keepers. They used misrepresentation to drum up signatures for the box turtle laws to get passed here in TX. It is surprising that they got a lot of the reptile people to believe that going against box turtle keepers was a good conservation measure. In fact none of the laws put forth really do anything to save box turtles in the wild half as much as the laws shut down captive breeding of box turtles. No land was set aside to preserve the turtles and development and fire ants and other factors continue to cause there decline anyway. In the end it is easy to make up crap and get people to go after you. I have kept many species of reptiles over the years. They are kept as residents rather than captives. I take there lives very seriously. In 33 years of field collecting (I release most of it and keep very little) I have never collected a place out of anything. But I have seen lots of development move in a wipe places out over those years. The thing that hurts me most here is that I care very much about the animals I keep. To have to hear people saying bad things about you that are not true is hard enough, but to have the government siding with them with my money is in no way moral or acceptable to me. I put the animals I keep first before myself as they are my responsibility.

I have never and never have heard of anyone masturbating while feeding any of there animals. Who ever wrote this crap is real sick in the head!

This to me shows just how mentally ill these people behind the AR stuff really are.

What is really sad to me is to see that the government rather on a City, State or Federal level is taking there side and using our tax money to go after us in any way. It just makes me want to puke.



I said a long time ago you guys need to be more aggressive about your approach to this. All animal keepers need to start banning together. Yes I know that is easier said than done. But you don't get anywhere by not trying. My Mom always used to tell me "Can't never could, and didn't never did."



Maybe reptile keepers need to plan some protest. If done right it should at least help get public awareness up and our side of the story out to the public. You need to get a "Jump all over them mentality" when they put crap out there like this. They can't win with the truth so they are using lies instead. This kind of misrepresenting the facts to the public to trick them into signing a petition should be illegal. It is at least fraud and someone should get charged for it. If this is aloud what kind of president does it set?

Just because they are pricking on snake collectors doesn't make it OK to commit fraud. Eric
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Noah was the first snake collector. ~Eric~

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