The same thing with the box turtle laws in Texas. They said if you sign there petition it would stop the trade of turtles to China food markets. They failed to mention that box turtles were not on the list of species being sold to China. But they did say the number of turtles being sent and I can't remember the exact number but it was in the thousands. They worded it to make people believe the thousands being sent were box turtles so you would of coarse do the right thing and sign the petition. Not knowing that box turtles were not being sent at all according to the list of turtles they got the numbers from.

The original document of this disappeared after I called it out. But it was too late because bunches of people signed the petition under what I would say was false pretences and maybe even fraud since they were being lied to.

The irony here is the turtle species that were being sold most to the Asian food market were red eared slider, soft shells and snappers. They got exempted so they could still be sold to the food market while the box turtle breeders got the shaft. I do not see any conservation in that at all.

At the time nobody would really listen to me and some of you guys called me a winner. Who is winning now? The way I see it is it is not winning if you have a legitimate reason for your complaint and it is all true.



They have a way of limping things together and trying to make information look like it applies that doesn't.

They also have a way of attacking one type of animal keepers at a time in separated instances so they will not have a unified support to block it.



Years ago (about 8 or 9) I asked a Texas Parks and Wildlife officer about what it would take to get a permit to collect salt water fish from the coast for the pet trade. He said that TP&W frowned upon collecting and selling any wildlife and wanted to put a stop to it. The agenda has been going on for a long time it just now caught up to all of us.

The thing is they consider even captive born to be wild animals. Again the definitions are wide and far reaching. I have to wonder how many people that work for Parks and Wildlife are also members of PETA and or HSUS? They sure do support there agenda.

Working with and captive breeding animals is conservation. It is sad they no longer know this.
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