Ben my point is that some of these Paradox's WILL end up having another NON related gene showing thru on the Super.. Do you think a Black Pastel Ivory will just look like a normal Ivory or does it seem possible to you that perhaps the Black Pastel may "bleed thru" and become visible on the Ivory. Or for example do you think a Sable Ivory will just look like a regular Ivory. What about a Super Sable Ivory , think that will just look like a regular Ivory? VPI made a Paradox Ivory and it was from a Fire Yb x Yb/Ivory breeding , to me that paradox IS a Fire Ivory BUT most of you would just call it a Paradox instead to me that Fire gene is coming thru and because we already know that Fire and Yb aren't alleles to me it makes alot of sense. Not sure why it's so hard for people to get this when it's obvious that an Ivory isn't a true leucistic anyway , which makes it QUITE possible for other colors or patterns to show up on an Ivory logically speaking anyway. The fact that a Super Stripe can even be made tells us something about the Ivory gene as the ONLY other snake that comes close to letting color and pattern pass thru when the proper gene on the same allele (Mystic) is used is the Mojave gene (making the Potion), once again Mojave is NOT a true white snake either, it has yellow and a grey head it is NOT a true white snake either. So to me having Ivories with color and or pattern is NOT hard to believe at all, it's just that IF the color/pattern IS genetic AT ALL it MUST be a non Allele of Yb as otherwise it isn't possible for it to even be present on an Ivory , just like it isn't possible to make a Super Lesser Mojave. And yes you can have Paradox stuff in the BEL complex too , not saying that isn't likely. TSK has Paradox Super Mojaves and in time I bet they will prove that the "Paradox" that is showing is IN FACT a non allele to BEL if it is a genetic trait at all because it can't be genetic at all if it's on a Super Mojave and the gene is an allele to Mojave . THIS IS MY POINT BEN....



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