Yeah I was looking at rodentpro. Was thinking of trying guinea pigs and quail of the similar grams to the size rats I'm feeding now. I got my ball back in January, a craigslist find. The guy had been feeding him live stuff and I only recently got him eating thawed rats faithfully. Just figured it'd be healthier to offer him something more than lab rats once in a while. And in response to cleaning up a bird meal, once in a while doesn't bother me at all. I kept a 5 foot iguana when I lived in Florida and their is terrible. I'm also in veterinary school and work in clinics, and don't believe a bird meal mess could be worse than blow outs from parvo, pancreatitis, etc.... nasty poop is kind of a vet student's life!

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