>>Nice looking ratsnake Draybar. I cannot understand why the herpetological community chooses to call a mostly black ratsnake a "Grey Ratsnake". What an insult to the true "Grey Ratsnakes" of the deep south. Just a very large intergrade area bounded by Black and Grey Ratsnake ranges.



I guess that's why there has been a lean towards classifying all the obsoletas under three species, Elaphe obsoleta (Western Rat Snake), Elaphe spilodes (Midland Rat Snake), and Elaphe appalachiensis (Eastern Rat Snake)

which I couldn't disagree with more...just doesn't work.


back to the rat pictured I would really lean more towards grey/black intergrade.
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