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Posted by: flavor at Mon Sep 13 20:16:32 2010   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by flavor ]  
   

This is about to get a little long-winded. For those of you who just can't wait, feel free to scroll down. You can come back and read this later.



Right away, I want to acknowledge some of the really cool things that have happened with BRBs this year. We've seen some big accomplishments. Jeff's Peruvian clutches look outstanding. I can't believe these snakes are still as uncommon as they are. Dave has put another piece of the anery puzzle in place by becoming the first one (I think) to cross two anerys to produce an all-anery clutch. Among all of your other achievements this year, this one stands out the most in my mind. It's evident that BRB morphs are catching on with all of the progress being made with striped and pearl animals especially. All of these things bring attention to our species (BRBs, not Hs). This is clearly evidenced by the number of people experiencing first-time breeding success this year with Epicrates. Congratulations! This is a wonderful species to work with.



So... even though I haven't made too many comments on the forum as of late, I have been reading along and sharing all of your joys, and some of your sorrows (Dave B, my fingers are still crossed for you).



On August 30, another milestone in BRB history was set. As many of you know, Robert Seib and I started a project back in 2005. We crossed an anery female of his to a hypo male of mine. We got a clutch of 12. 4.8 - who could ask for better sex ratios? In 2006, we crossed a second female anery (sib to the first) with a second male hypo (sib to the first) and got a second clutch. This time, there were 13 animals (4.9).



We have been referring to these 25 animals as "double-hets". Honestly, we suspected that this terminology wasn't 100% accurate because two of the females from the 2006 clutch are anery. This took us completely by surprise and suggested that our anery gene may not operate as a simple recessive allele.



Nevertheless, I intended to raise my 12 animals up and proceed with pairings when they were ready.



During the 2009 breeding season, I noticed follicles beginning to develop in one of the 2005 females. I decided not to breed her that season because I wanted to put more size on her and wait until a couple other females were ready to go. I knew if I were going to produce the ghost, I would only have a 1 in 16 chance and wanted to optimize my results. During the 2010 season, I cooled 3 2005 females and 2 of my 2006 males. Copulations took place throughout the winter of and early spring of 2010 and all three females promptly went off feed and began to swell.



I estimated the three females would drop in July of 2010 and for whatever reason, I was waaaay off.



The first clutch was born on August 18 (my birthday). There are 10 animals in the clutch. Three hypos, and 7 visually normal animals. A third clutch was dropped on September 9. There are 16 live animals. 6 hypos and 10 visually normal snakes. These two clutches are interesting to me for two reasons. 1) No anerys or ghosts were produced even though I expected anerys in the same proportion as hypos 2) Hypos showed up in both of these clutches in expected numbers. Interestingly enough, both of these clutches were sired by the same male.



The second clutch was pretty cool. This one was dropped on August 30. The mother of this clutch is a 2005 "double het" female. She is a sib to both of the other females who produced this year. The sire is a 2006 "double-het" male. He is the brother of the sire to the other clutch. In this clutch there were 11 live babies. 7 visual normals, 1 hypo, 1 beautiful anery and two ghosts. Although one is a little more ghostly than the other, they look exactly as you would expect them to. I'd like to note that both of the ghosts and the anery are all female. I don't know why, but I feel like this is significant.



I would love to talk with you over the next few weeks and months to try and figure out how this gene operates. There are people here with a much more detailed knowledge of genetics that myself and your thoughts would be very interesting to me. In the meantime, I'm very proud to present "Angel", the first BRB ghost, along with some of her siblings.





Angel





























Angel with her hypo sister





Angel with her anery sister





How's this for rainbow soup? All from the same clutch.





Many of you don't know this but back in 1995 I purchased what I suspected was an anerythristic BRB from Lloyd Lemke. My intention was to cross it with the hypo gene. Due to my own poor husbandry, the snake died and I never got the chance. I've been waiting 15 long years to see this animal. And she loooooks gooooood!!!!
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Mike Lockwood

www.tooscaley.com

   

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