>>I think Jeff -- who is far more of an expert on the differences between BRBs and PRBs than any of us -- has already covered the classification side pretty well. He feels they are separate, breeds his separately, plans to keep them that way

I don't think that's exactly what he said.

We know that there is a group of "pure" Peruvians in herpetoculture. I agree that we should only sell these pure Peruvians as Peruvians, and should not sell prb/brb mixes as Peruvians.

Then there's a much larger group of "Brazilian" rainbows. This is where the mixing is. These animals are already mixed, and there is no way for us to tell which ones are pure or not. Do you yourself have collection data on your own animals?? If not, then you are probably selling mixed animals without even knowing it.

>>And a lot of justification is based on the fact contamination “might” already have occurred:
>>> you don't know whether your own animals are "pure" or not. And you never will know.
>>> So why is it a problem?
>>That’s a pretty weak rationale, no matter how you slice it. Just because someone else didn’t care doesn’t allow us not to.

It's not a "rationale" -- it's a reality check. Do you have collection data on your own animals?? If not, then you are probably selling mixed animals without even knowing it. Why, then, should you look down on people who simply **acknowledge** the mixed blood in their animals?
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1.2 Peruvian rainbow boas (Amaru, Asiru, Kulipsa)
2.0 Brazilian rainbow boas (Arco, Olho)
1.3.1 Honduran milksnakes (Chicchan, Chanir, Chakar, Hari, Saksak)
1.0 Thayeri kingsnake (Coatl)
0.0.1 Mexican black kingsnake (Mora)
2.4.4 corns (Cetto, Tolosa, Uce, TBA)
1,000,000.1,000,000 other critters

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• Miscegenation -- - amazondoc, Wed Oct 27 12:09:47 2010
• RE: Miscegenation -- - Gorillaunit33, Wed Oct 27 12:55:19 2010
• RE: Miscegenation -- - amazondoc, Wed Oct 27 13:03:08 2010
• RE: Miscegenation -- - rainbowsrus, Wed Oct 27 13:18:36 2010
• RE: Miscegenation -- - natsamjosh, Wed Oct 27 13:48:03 2010
• A different way to look at this - Jeff Clark, Wed Oct 27 15:04:49 2010
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• RE: A different way to look at this - natsamjosh, Wed Oct 27 19:30:43 2010
• RE: A different way to look at this - amazondoc, Wed Oct 27 23:01:20 2010
• Mixed bloodlines?? - Jeff Clark, Thu Oct 28 08:22:21 2010
• RE: Miscegenation -- - OGFSnakes, Thu Oct 28 11:11:55 2010
• RE: Miscegenation -- - amazondoc, Thu Oct 28 12:57:15 2010
• abstract -- - amazondoc, Thu Oct 28 13:37:47 2010
• RE: A different way to look at this - amazondoc, Thu Oct 28 16:17:18 2010
• YOU ARE ALL WRONG!!!! - Jeff Clark, Thu Oct 28 22:30:25 2010
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• RE: abstract -- - amazondoc_, Thu Oct 28 22:56:10 2010
• QUESTION FOR EVERYONE-- - IkeLightner, Fri Oct 29 09:05:12 2010
• RE: QUESTION FOR EVERYONE-- - Jeff Clark, Fri Oct 29 09:47:09 2010
• RE: QUESTION FOR EVERYONE-- - Jeff Clark, Fri Oct 29 11:56:15 2010
• RE: A different way to look at this - amazondoc_, Fri Oct 29 12:26:47 2010
• RE: QUESTION FOR EVERYONE-- - Jeff Clark, Fri Oct 29 15:04:05 2010
• RE: QUESTION FOR EVERYONE-- - IkeLightner, Fri Oct 29 16:40:35 2010
• RE: QUESTION FOR EVERYONE-- - Jeff Clark, Fri Oct 29 19:05:47 2010
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