This has been a good discussion these past few days. Some valid points.
As unpleasant and straight forward as Mike can be, he is right. The way I see it (actually saw it), TP&W said "don't want to go down that road" in respect to actually monitoring real numbers, and just swept the whole issue under the rug with the ban (white list/black list). Out of sight, out of mind...on to new business..."we've got game ranches to promote". Validation of TP&W's position provided by newly created "associations" of little merit, that were conveniently created by HSUS lackeys like Barbara Dillard. People with absolutely no credentials were suddenly authorities.

Many HCU representatives, and/or members weren't very supportive of Mike's position at the time of the original discussion, attacking him personally. They ate that boilerplate HSUS propaganda up and spewed it forth again and again. They were seemingly only interested in their small segment of herpetoculture, that of reversing the road ban in Texas. Their strategy did not work.

Mike has continued the debate. Why not. Nothing has changed. Now, only a few step up to defend HCU's actions. Very noble, but the facts are undeniable. It's time to get something done.

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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

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