>>I've found that unregulated euthanasia in pet shelters appears to be the Achilles Heel of HSUS, PETA, et al., and that Nathan Winograd and the No-Kill movement are firing away with deadly accuracy. The "No-Kill" movement clearly has HSUS on the defensive with unrelenting pressure.
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Nathan et all are firing away quite frequently, however one issue is that they are doing it too much. And trust me I adore Nathan. I love the no kill movement and fully understand it.

We have to be careful to not turn into boy who cried wolf. Eventually no one listens.

Several times I have mentioned reaching out to other groups. Making friends with the ferret folks in CA, making nice with the bird folks, making nice with the feral cat folks, reaching out to the Bull Breed folks (American Pit Bull Terrier is on the list of animals PETA wants to make extinct and yes that is THEIR word). Getting a partnership with these organizations is vital to getting acceptance beyond reptile owners which is also vital to survival.

These groups have regularly stood up to AR movements in the past. We need to get together with them.
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• Achilles' Heel of HSUS, PETA, et al. - webwheeler, Sun Nov 14 12:28:27 2010
• RE: Achilles' Heel of HSUS, PETA, et al. - jscrick, Sun Nov 14 14:19:04 2010
• RE: Achilles' Heel of HSUS, PETA, et al. - PHFaust, Mon Nov 15 08:54:01 2010
• ...would be nice Cindy but... - mavericksdad, Mon Nov 15 09:24:49 2010
• RE: ...would be nice Cindy but... - webwheeler, Mon Nov 15 11:10:54 2010
• RE: ...would be nice Cindy but... - PHFaust, Wed Nov 17 09:52:11 2010
• RE: ...would be nice Cindy but... - webwheeler, Wed Nov 17 11:21:38 2010
• RE: ...would be nice Cindy but... - wireptile, Wed Nov 17 11:51:25 2010
• RE: ...would be nice Cindy but... - PHFaust, Wed Nov 17 09:40:01 2010
• RE: ...would be nice Cindy but... - webwheeler, Wed Nov 17 11:13:33 2010
• RE: ...would be nice Cindy but... - PHFaust, Wed Nov 17 22:00:52 2010
• RE: ...would be nice Cindy but... - webwheeler, Wed Nov 17 23:27:30 2010