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RE: Rextiles and others....

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Posted by: Rextiles at Tue Nov 16 23:41:33 2010   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by Rextiles ]  
   

Thanks for your input Chris, I appreciate and respect your opinion on this topic.

To be honest, I'm open to the fact that I might be totally off on my interpretation of the terminology as I admit that I am an amateur in the understanding of genetics. I really wish that my original post on this topic would have generated more debate which might have helped us all come to some sort of consensus on the matter, unfortunately it did not.

However, it would prove beneficial to your argument and our understanding of this specific topic if you could elaborate, or at least cite some sources, as to why you believe my interpretation is partially or completely wrong. Believe me, I have no ego in persisting that I'm right if incontrovertible evidence, credible sources or valid arguments are made that prove otherwise. In fact, I've done some more research today and think I can see how I might understand things a bit differently, but I would like to hear what you, or others for that matter, have to say.

So let me ask this, how would you define the production of 2 Recessive traits to create a 3rd phenotype, in other words, how would you define the 3rd phenotype, a Snow for example, what would that be called or what would the definition of that be? Sure, a Snow would still be Recessive to the Wild Type, but it's also something more considering it's the byproduct of 2 different but related traits (color-wise I mean). Considering that everything else seems to have a definition and/or name to it, this type of double Recessive trait mixture would have to fall under some type of definition or name too.

I agree 100% Chris... Two recessive genes showing in one animal is not incomplete dominance at play...

With all due respect Gregg, kindly explain to what this collaboration of traits creating a 3rd phenotype is called then? I don't think there can be any denying that what is at work here seems to mimic exactly how Incomplete Dominance actually is defined and works, the only difference is that we're dealing with Recessive traits instead of Dominant ones. Does that mean that this is Incomplete Dominance at work? No, not really, at least not how Incomplete Dominance is scientifically defined, and yes, I do know what the actual definition of Incomplete Dominance is and the specifics of how it's actually supposed to be defined. But the two outcomes are basically the same, the combining of two like traits to create a 3rd completely different phenotype. By completely pure definition, this wouldn't be defined as Incomplete Dominance necessarily at work because Incomplete Dominance is defined using Dominant only traits and not Recessive traits, I'll concede that point to a degree, but again I ask you just like I asked Chris, what do you think it is then ? And please cite sources and references instead of just injecting personal opinions.
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Troy Rexroth
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