"It basically stated that some black present on the tongue does not necessarily mean intergrade"

I pretty much have to think that is indeed the case. For the "most-part", a greater prcentage of the tongue being red would indicate an Everglades, but I seriously doubt ALL Everglades have "only" red tongues, and zero black on them. Some very orange one's I have seen with "some" dark coloration on their tongues too. Quite possibly, Some might not have much red on them at all too I would guess anyway, but how would anyone know the exact percentage(if any) of the geneflow from either...it really can't be done unless someone dedicates many years to crossing the two from several localities to find all this out. We have all seen many genuine types of snakes that don't quite fit the typical norm out there.

Here are some progression shots of the male I had that descended from a wild-caught Hendry County female that was very red/orange. He does happen to have a red tongue as well, and turned into quite a nice specimen.


~Doug












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• Help with ID please - goombasreptiles, Tue Nov 23 13:02:00 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - GoombasReptiles, Tue Nov 23 14:52:10 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - cochran, Tue Nov 23 15:28:23 2010
• I'm with Jeff on this one - draybar, Tue Nov 23 16:45:20 2010
• RE: I'm with Jeff on this one - GoombasReptiles, Tue Nov 23 17:28:05 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - DMong, Tue Nov 23 19:17:55 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - GoombasReptiles, Tue Nov 23 19:36:45 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - DMong, Wed Nov 24 01:38:49 2010
• closeup of Jeff's hypo - DMong, Wed Nov 24 02:02:33 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - cochran, Wed Nov 24 20:45:51 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - goombasreptiles, Wed Nov 24 21:18:02 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - tspuckler, Fri Nov 26 07:48:04 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - goombasreptiles, Fri Nov 26 20:31:10 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - goombasreptiles, Fri Nov 26 20:42:23 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - pgcc0912, Sat Nov 27 06:16:55 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - cochran, Sat Nov 27 18:56:46 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - draybar, Sat Nov 27 09:34:30 2010
• not conant and collins - draybar, Sat Nov 27 09:41:32 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - pgcc0912, Sat Nov 27 10:35:43 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - pgcc0912, Sat Nov 27 10:36:42 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - tspuckler, Sat Nov 27 11:38:19 2010
• Oh, and one more thing... - tspuckler, Sat Nov 27 12:03:39 2010
• RE: Oh, and one more thing... - draybar, Sat Nov 27 16:16:14 2010
• RE: Oh, and one more thing... - goombasreptiles, Sat Nov 27 16:41:02 2010
• RE: Oh, and one more thing... - DMong, Sat Nov 27 17:27:27 2010
• RE: Oh, and one more thing... - cochran, Sat Nov 27 19:05:15 2010
• RE: Oh, and one more thing... - DMong, Sun Nov 28 09:14:21 2010
• Agreed... - foxturtle, Sun Nov 28 01:30:20 2010
• RE: Agreed... - DMong, Sun Nov 28 09:22:09 2010
• No disrepect intended... - foxturtle, Sun Nov 28 01:20:07 2010
• RE: No disrepect intended... - tspuckler, Sun Nov 28 10:44:08 2010
• RE: No disrepect intended... - RichardHurtz, Sun Nov 28 15:20:32 2010
• RE: No disrepect intended... - tspuckler, Sun Nov 28 17:23:35 2010
• RE: No disrepect intended... - RichardHurtz, Sun Nov 28 18:06:59 2010
• RE: No disrepect intended... - DMong, Sun Nov 28 18:40:54 2010
• RE: No disrepect intended... - foxturtle, Tue Nov 30 02:07:44 2010
• RE: No disrepect intended... - foxturtle, Tue Nov 30 01:59:18 2010
• RE: No disrepect intended... - goombasreptiles, Thu Dec 2 16:54:43 2010
• RE: No disrepect intended... - PeeBee, Fri Dec 3 00:37:36 2010