No disrespect, but your observations and reports from collectors are anectodal as well, so they don't hold any value over literature published by two of the most well-known herpers in the last 50 years.

What is the difference between a yellow rat snake and an Everglades? Is it location alone? If so, everglades and yellow rats may very well simply be color variations of the same snake.

If these collector friends of yours are still finding "pure" Everglades, I'd like to see some photos.

Tim

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• Help with ID please - goombasreptiles, Tue Nov 23 13:02:00 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - GoombasReptiles, Tue Nov 23 14:52:10 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - cochran, Tue Nov 23 15:28:23 2010
• I'm with Jeff on this one - draybar, Tue Nov 23 16:45:20 2010
• RE: I'm with Jeff on this one - GoombasReptiles, Tue Nov 23 17:28:05 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - DMong, Tue Nov 23 19:17:55 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - GoombasReptiles, Tue Nov 23 19:36:45 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - DMong, Wed Nov 24 01:38:49 2010
• closeup of Jeff's hypo - DMong, Wed Nov 24 02:02:33 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - cochran, Wed Nov 24 20:45:51 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - goombasreptiles, Wed Nov 24 21:18:02 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - tspuckler, Fri Nov 26 07:48:04 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - goombasreptiles, Fri Nov 26 20:31:10 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - goombasreptiles, Fri Nov 26 20:42:23 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - pgcc0912, Sat Nov 27 06:16:55 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - cochran, Sat Nov 27 18:56:46 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - draybar, Sat Nov 27 09:34:30 2010
• not conant and collins - draybar, Sat Nov 27 09:41:32 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - pgcc0912, Sat Nov 27 10:35:43 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - pgcc0912, Sat Nov 27 10:36:42 2010
• RE: Help with ID please - tspuckler, Sat Nov 27 11:38:19 2010
• Oh, and one more thing... - tspuckler, Sat Nov 27 12:03:39 2010
• RE: Oh, and one more thing... - draybar, Sat Nov 27 16:16:14 2010
• RE: Oh, and one more thing... - goombasreptiles, Sat Nov 27 16:41:02 2010
• RE: Oh, and one more thing... - DMong, Sat Nov 27 17:27:27 2010
• RE: Oh, and one more thing... - cochran, Sat Nov 27 19:05:15 2010
• RE: Oh, and one more thing... - DMong, Sun Nov 28 09:14:21 2010
• Agreed... - foxturtle, Sun Nov 28 01:30:20 2010
• RE: Agreed... - DMong, Sun Nov 28 09:22:09 2010
• No disrepect intended... - foxturtle, Sun Nov 28 01:20:07 2010
• RE: No disrepect intended... - tspuckler, Sun Nov 28 10:44:08 2010
• RE: No disrepect intended... - RichardHurtz, Sun Nov 28 15:20:32 2010
• RE: No disrepect intended... - tspuckler, Sun Nov 28 17:23:35 2010
• RE: No disrepect intended... - RichardHurtz, Sun Nov 28 18:06:59 2010
• RE: No disrepect intended... - DMong, Sun Nov 28 18:40:54 2010
• RE: No disrepect intended... - foxturtle, Tue Nov 30 02:07:44 2010
• RE: No disrepect intended... - foxturtle, Tue Nov 30 01:59:18 2010
• RE: No disrepect intended... - goombasreptiles, Thu Dec 2 16:54:43 2010
• RE: No disrepect intended... - PeeBee, Fri Dec 3 00:37:36 2010