First you have to realize that my experience with these is limited to one trip some 20 years ago and what's in the perterson field guide. Anyway I asked because:



1) the sited county, if I recall is in the eastern half of KS. As I recall the flint hills run ~ through the center of the state and my experience was that syspila were east of the hills and gentilis were west of the hills.



2) I've always looked at gentilis and syspila like thayeri, same snake different phase. Milk snake phasa thayeri and syspila are both found in the easter more mesic part of the range while leonis phase thayeri and gentilis are found in the more arid western end of the range.



3) I've always seen thought of classic gentilis as having much less red in the pattern.



BTW my question wasn't a dig on you, I'm questioning my own assumptions as much as sking for clarification from you.
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