everything you are saying makes plenty of sense - i guess all i had ever read was from the school of thought that if you fed in the "home" enclosure that just opening the lid might make them think it is feeding time - thats where the hook comes in i guess - what was weird was with is snake as with every snake i own i have always done the same thing - feed on sundays - then never handle til wednesday then always handle in 10 or 15 minute sessions on wednesday and as often as once or twice more before the next Sunday - particularly with this snake- i could take him out 2 or 3 times a day and do most anything i wanted to with him and he never, ever gave any sign of wanting to be agressive in any way - he just acted super weird that night - as i said i had this strange feeling that i should just leave him alone but i didn't and i paid the price for it - since then he has spent most of the time in his water bowl - i guess he's going blue - but he only shed 5 weeeks ago - this seems too quick for a snake his age to shed again - i don't know - i'm really gonna think about what you suggested - i have to admiti had been feedingmy juvenile dum pair in their tub because they refused to eat off the tongs - they would always take it later in the dark after looking at it or laying with their face next to it - i keep them on aspen so i have always feared aspeningestion with feeding - maybe i gotta regroup and go to newspaper and try what you said - i'm pretty new to this whole snake thing and igotta be honest - another bite and i probably bail out on this hobby - keep my corn snake and maybe my young ball and sell out and scrap the big snake business - i like em but i dont gotta have em - its just something i enjoy - thank you for taking time to reply and help me - what do you think baout what ive said in this post and what type of substrate if any and enclosures do you use with big boas in particular - i've got a bigger female coming on wednesday that was to be his mate that i've already paid for - at a crossroads i guess????

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