Sorry, I guess I mislead you, they do always copulate for the most part however with the passing fronts and barametric lows they seem to with more attitude, kinda like my wife after a glass of wine on Saturday night verses the weeknight stuff:} And I have seen what appeared to be attemped copulation with 2 rock monitor females within 3-4 days of them each laying a clutch of eggs a few years ago, so it looks as if dominance is proven in the same manner as we have seen in our Agamids [Female frillies] 25 years ago. And for being mislead, many people believe odatria to go from egg to egg in 4 months as read on this forum but they are mistaking early copulation/ dominance/social projecting for egg production. The Gilleni seem to tolerate the groups if set up correctly but the Glauerti seem to get a bit unnerved and show signs of stress, kinked tails [being one] that seem to straighten themselves out in a short time when seperated.BTW do you have any pics of the Kimbara monitor you produced? Id like to see it if you dont mind?

Bob

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