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Posted by: oregonboas at Tue Feb 22 22:42:59 2011   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by oregonboas ]  
   

DISCLAIMER!

I DO have Roswell boas! And I have also made it very public that I think that the KWB's are WAYYY better looking at this point, giving all the credit to Jeff Ronne.



If you think I have some motive or reason to try and bring the KWB project down... Well, you're just off your rocker.



I need to first say that after tracking down a few other posts regarding the KWB's on other forums I must retract my words of them being labeled as "Pure Colombian" Jeff's own words:



"We don’t use the word “pure” Colombian because we do not know the ancestry with the kind of detail that I know many of my other bloodlines."

Jeff Ronne 10/17/09



So for the "Pure Colombian" reference, I apologize. I could have sworn that they were labeled as such.



However, the very next day, in the same thread... While adressing the KWB's being bred to Roswells:



Then since they are already a cross, any breeding is going to be technically a "cross". Nothing "wrong" with that and I don't have anything against that obviously, or I would not have gotten into the Roswell project to begin with. However, since the Key West kids are Colombians, there just isn't any reason for me to do any kind of a "cross" with them. There are too many morphs that they haven't been bred into to even think about doing that breeding. In fact, they haven't been bred into any of the Morphs yet!

Jeff Ronne 10/18/09



This is a quote from another forum as well. Not from Jeff, but it was never corrected by Jeff so it would seem he agrees. And with Lar appearing to be the KWB's public defender (just a friendly jab in Lar's ribs, nothing serious), this seems like a bold statement.



I'm a huge fan of the all Colombian KWB's , they are totally Colombian Boas there is not an ounce of Suri or Guyanese type Bcc blood in them

LarM 2/24/10







I will say that they are referred to as Colombian, with no trace of bcc influence on a regular basis. I just don't get that. Rarely anymore do we as "morphers" apply the Colombian tag to our babies for sale. Yeah, in the Motley case we do more often, but only because there is a C.A. and Colombian version. So why the constant Colombian tag or reference? Seems odd to me.



So my question is this:

Say a bcc and a bci were crossed. Mom was bci and dad was bcc. Out of all of the offspring one that were produced, some will look like mom, some will look like dad and some will have traits of both... Correct? So take a baby that looks just like the mom (remember she's the bci) and breed that to a more common (non bcc) boa. You would think that this litter would show little resemblance to the grandfather, remember now, he's a bcc. Take again, a baby that shows few of the bcc traits and grow that one up and breed it. Do you see what I mean? It could all be lost in the mix.



By the way, this is a non Key West sibling. I think it looks like it COULD possibly have a touch of bcc to it. But then again maybe it's just me...




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Jeff Carr

West Coast Constrictors

www.westcoastconstrictors.com

   

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