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RE: What happened to the important info?

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Posted by: oregonboas at Thu Feb 24 09:19:07 2011   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by oregonboas ]  
   

"All I've ever said is simply that NO ONE can POSSIBLY know. One of the founding animals came from a pet store with NO lineage. Therefore, to claim it is or is not an intergrade is simply a guess. Therefore, the only truthful and appropriate label is "boa constrictor". Pretty simple actually."

Jonathan Brady





"The important info being that at some point in the lineage, a founding animal of this line was purchased from a pet store. Beyond that, no lineage is known and thus, is merely assumed.

As you said before Jeff, "know means know". "Assumed" on the other hand, does not mean "know". Therefore, calling these animals "Colombians" means the person calling them that is making an assumption quite simply because, they don't "know"."

Jonathan Brady



THANK YOU! Thank YOU! THANK YOU!

That is all I have ever tried to say. I'm glad someone can wrap their brain around it. However... I have to come to Jeff's defense here. His original back story on the KWB's was that one of the parents was from a pet shop. After talking to Zach a bit more and investigating further, they found out that the babies from the original pair were sold to pet stores, that was the original pet store connection. But they were sold to this guy as "Colombian" boas. But then again, PetCo, Pet Smart and a thousand mom an pop shops sell "Colombian Red Tail boas" all day long, for decades without truly knowing what was in the mix.



Bottom line is this: There is now whay to tell. That being said, I believe the KWB's are better looking at this point, and probably healthier due to Jeff's outcrossing.
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