The Troll-

It's tough to find the right place to start to rebut the complete load of crap you just posted. But I'll try
Please take a look at the photos below. After reading your post, I grabbed a camera and did a few quick shots. All the photos are from today, just a few minutes ago.

If I "knew" (as you claim) that Desert females don't breed why would I "waste" a Desert Pin male breeding one? I'm doing this pairing because I'm hoping to make Super Desert Pins! The female Desert in this photo was 1775 grams as of yesterday.



The Desert Spider female below is 1725 grams. I just weighed my largest 12 year old Mandarin ratsnake and it was only 1100 grams. The Desert Spider is an 08 baby. So they are clearly not ratsnake sized.



The Desert female below is a 08 baby as well. As you can see she is 1920 grams. Doesn't look like a "large rat snake" to me. How about you, Troll?



This last photo is of a cage tags from one of our 09 female Deserts. The purple sticky to the left has her weight as of 2/9/11.



Ok, I think I just showed very clearly that Desert females do grow. The first photo shows that they do copulate.
But the million dollar question is....can Desert females lay good eggs? We have heard from a reliable source that a PE customer hatched two clutches from Desert girls last year. I think I will have a very strong chance to hatch a clutch this breeding season. I have gotten slugs in the past from a Desert girl but these were undersized girls that where not raised here at PE but were raised by another breeder under a very different system. Continued in new post....

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• The truth on female Deserts - TheTruth, Mon Mar 7 12:16:54 2011
• one more thing - TheTruth, Mon Mar 7 12:20:45 2011
• My truth - biggerdigger, Mon Mar 7 16:26:16 2011
• RE: My truth - dwherp, Mon Mar 7 16:41:18 2011
• Question for Mike - amcroyals, Mon Mar 7 16:45:12 2011
• Bi Winning! - biggerdigger, Mon Mar 7 19:51:25 2011
• Thank You Mike! - amcroyals, Mon Mar 7 20:28:02 2011
• The problem with my name - TheTruth, Tue Mar 8 10:20:33 2011
• Just curious.... - Rob Lewis, Tue Mar 8 13:16:37 2011
• You don't know the business well enough - TheTruth, Tue Mar 8 14:36:42 2011
• you are bringing out the Big Gunns! - robyn@ProExotics, Tue Mar 8 14:43:41 2011
• That would be bad for you Robyn - TheTruth, Tue Mar 8 14:46:33 2011
• You're getting close though - TheTruth, Tue Mar 8 14:52:58 2011
• RE: You're getting close though - JYohe, Tue Mar 8 16:44:03 2011
• RE: You don't know the business well enough - joshm, Tue Mar 8 18:02:40 2011
• RE: You don't know the business well enough - Rob Lewis, Tue Mar 8 19:41:04 2011
• RE: You don't know the business well enough - ecdysis, Tue Mar 8 19:54:02 2011
• Good post Rob - TheTruth, Wed Mar 9 15:57:50 2011
• nothing to do with desert females... - insangelic, Tue Mar 8 21:03:38 2011
• RE: nothing to do with desert females... - TheTruth, Wed Mar 9 16:01:18 2011
• RE: nothing to do with desert females... - insangelic, Wed Mar 9 19:09:41 2011
• Hey Insang. - TheTruth, Thu Mar 10 14:33:27 2011
• RE: nothing to do with desert females... - CEballpythons, Wed Mar 9 16:43:34 2011
• RE: nothing to do with desert females... - insangelic, Wed Mar 9 19:12:02 2011
• The Truth = Charlie Sheen - sho220, Fri Mar 11 09:21:01 2011
• Not surprised - Bolitochrome, Mon Mar 7 12:32:03 2011
• RE: Not surprised - TheTruth, Mon Mar 7 12:39:08 2011
• such a well informed troll - robyn@ProExotics, Mon Mar 7 13:33:51 2011
• I do know of two Desert female clutches - robyn@ProExotics, Mon Mar 7 13:37:13 2011
• RE: I do know of two Desert female clutches - HTDesigns, Mon Mar 7 21:49:36 2011
• RE: I do know of two Desert female clutches - TheTruth, Tue Mar 8 10:34:26 2011
• Those don't look thin... - Bolitochrome, Mon Mar 7 13:49:14 2011
• Bad idea to call me a troll Robin - TheTruth, Tue Mar 8 10:31:56 2011
• RE: Bad idea to call me a troll Robin - robyn@ProExotics, Tue Mar 8 12:36:27 2011
• Now YOU bash Pete Kahl's animals - TheTruth, Tue Mar 8 13:05:59 2011
• RE: Now YOU bash Pete Kahl's animals - robyn@ProExotics, Tue Mar 8 13:09:22 2011
• RE: Now YOU bash Pete Kahl's animals - TheTruth, Tue Mar 8 13:25:43 2011
• What are you afraid of? - joshm, Mon Mar 7 13:40:59 2011
• RE: What are you afraid of? - TheTruth, Tue Mar 8 10:36:02 2011
• RE: What are you afraid of? - joshm, Tue Mar 8 17:03:13 2011
• RE: The truth on female Deserts - dwherp, Mon Mar 7 13:46:38 2011
• RE: The truth on female Deserts - BuzzardBall, Mon Mar 7 14:41:19 2011
• You have a lot to lose then Dan - TheTruth, Tue Mar 8 10:41:25 2011
• RE: The truth on female Deserts - kingofspades, Mon Mar 7 15:04:13 2011
• RE: The truth on female Deserts - paulbuckley, Mon Mar 7 15:08:09 2011
• Good luck with her - TheTruth, Tue Mar 8 10:43:49 2011
• RE: The truth on female Deserts - chad_proexotics, Mon Mar 7 15:18:46 2011
• RE: The truth on female Deserts - chad_proexotics, Mon Mar 7 15:36:32 2011
• RE: The truth on female Deserts - TerryHeuring, Mon Mar 7 15:51:57 2011
• Question for Chad - amcroyals, Mon Mar 7 16:33:16 2011
• RE: The truth on female Deserts - HTDesigns, Mon Mar 7 21:52:34 2011
• A troll again huh? - TheTruth, Tue Mar 8 10:48:58 2011
• RE: The truth on female Deserts - toshamc, Mon Mar 7 15:39:51 2011
• RE: The truth on female Deserts - anthony james mc, Mon Mar 7 16:53:39 2011
• The truth is lies! - Albey, Mon Mar 7 15:53:50 2011
• Hey truth - biggerdigger, Mon Mar 7 16:37:02 2011
• RE: The truth is lies! - anthony james mc, Tue Mar 8 14:10:50 2011
• Pete is honest - TheTruth, Tue Mar 8 14:21:43 2011
• RE: The truth on female Deserts - sloanreptiles, Mon Mar 7 16:15:21 2011
• RE: The truth on female Deserts - amcroyals, Mon Mar 7 16:59:48 2011
• RE: The truth on female Deserts - sloanreptiles, Mon Mar 7 17:02:10 2011
• Mike??? - amcroyals, Mon Mar 7 17:09:18 2011
• RE: Mike??? - sloanreptiles, Mon Mar 7 17:11:58 2011
• RE: Mike??? - amcroyals, Mon Mar 7 17:16:09 2011
• I wonder why? - TheTruth, Tue Mar 8 10:55:20 2011
• More lies from "The Truth" - amcroyals, Tue Mar 8 13:14:07 2011
• What answer? - TheTruth, Tue Mar 8 14:26:08 2011
• "The Truth" is blind and ignorant.....NP - amcroyals, Tue Mar 8 15:30:21 2011
• This thread has shown that it's - TheTruth, Wed Mar 9 15:27:05 2011
• "The Truth" AKA "Blind Mr. T" NP - amcroyals, Wed Mar 9 16:33:46 2011
• RE: "The Truth" AKA "Blind Mr. T" NP - TheTruth, Wed Mar 9 16:39:41 2011
• I am sorry that.... - amcroyals, Wed Mar 9 16:54:15 2011
• Arent you trying to sell those? - luke9815, Tue Mar 8 15:33:48 2011
• excellent question Luke! - amcroyals, Tue Mar 8 16:34:49 2011
• Who is trying to sell them?????? - TheTruth, Wed Mar 9 15:40:59 2011
• If the "The Truth" wasn't blind then... - amcroyals, Wed Mar 9 16:43:47 2011
• RE: Arent you trying to sell those? - sloanreptiles, Wed Mar 9 08:49:39 2011
• AH, OK I see now - TheTruth, Wed Mar 9 15:43:27 2011
• RE: Arent you trying to sell those? - TheTruth, Wed Mar 9 15:29:35 2011
• RE: Arent you trying to sell those? - sloanreptiles, Wed Mar 9 16:29:03 2011
• RE: Arent you trying to sell those? - TheTruth, Thu Mar 10 14:23:21 2011
• A couple of key points... - bradford cole, Mon Mar 7 17:33:12 2011
• send me one........ - JYohe, Mon Mar 7 18:30:38 2011
• RE: send me one........ - robyn@ProExotics, Mon Mar 7 19:48:07 2011
• RE: send me one........ - JYohe, Tue Mar 8 16:50:50 2011
• is this Roger Ebert?!? - robyn@ProExotics, Mon Mar 7 22:32:00 2011
• RE: The truth on female Deserts - dwherp, Tue Mar 8 12:58:49 2011
• RE: The truth on female Deserts - robyn@ProExotics, Tue Mar 8 13:11:02 2011
• RE: The truth on female Deserts - dwherp, Tue Mar 8 13:15:00 2011
• RE: The truth on female Deserts - TheTruth, Tue Mar 8 14:30:34 2011
• Dan Reed? - robyn@ProExotics, Tue Mar 8 17:35:48 2011
• Nope. - robyn@ProExotics, Wed Mar 9 15:29:15 2011
• Dan Reed/ Big Gunns? - TheTruth, Wed Mar 9 15:47:13 2011
• RE: Dan Reed/ Big Gunns? - chad_proexotics, Wed Mar 9 16:14:06 2011
• RE: Dan Reed/ Big Gunns? - TheTruth, Wed Mar 9 16:26:14 2011
• THETRUTH - morphed, Tue Mar 8 14:50:28 2011
• RE: mmmmmm Desserts....... - BackBeat, Tue Mar 8 15:00:33 2011
• mmmmmm Popcorn....... - Bolitochrome, Tue Mar 8 16:27:52 2011
• RE: mmmmmm Desserts....... - robyn@ProExotics, Tue Mar 8 18:46:58 2011
• This needs a 'Like' button. - RyanT, Tue Mar 8 23:11:48 2011
• RE: mmmmmm Desserts....... - CEballpythons, Wed Mar 9 16:39:19 2011
• X^P BLEH - Bolitochrome, Thu Mar 10 07:56:13 2011
• Trying my hardest not to bash Robyn - TheTruth, Tue Mar 8 15:02:05 2011
• Please answer my questions Robyn - TheTruth, Tue Mar 8 15:17:11 2011
• RE: Please answer my questions Robyn - kingofspades, Tue Mar 8 15:31:14 2011
• RE: Please answer my questions Robyn - TheTruth, Tue Mar 8 15:38:56 2011
• RE: Please answer my questions Robyn - kingofspades, Tue Mar 8 21:23:50 2011
• RE: Please answer my questions Robyn - robyn@ProExotics, Tue Mar 8 16:00:02 2011
• RE: Please answer my questions Robyn - ecdysis, Tue Mar 8 19:16:02 2011
• Big Gunns - The Truth.... - KBuckler, Wed Mar 9 08:31:45 2011
• RE: Please answer my questions Robyn - CT420, Wed Mar 9 14:14:25 2011
• The name of the customer that produced - TheTruth, Wed Mar 9 15:35:55 2011
• RE: Please answer my questions Robyn - robyn@ProExotics, Wed Mar 9 16:58:50 2011
• RE: Please answer my questions Robyn - charleshanklin, Thu Mar 10 12:58:55 2011
• RE: Please answer my questions Robyn - robyn@ProExotics, Thu Mar 10 15:54:34 2011
• Thanks for the answer Robyn - TheTruth, Wed Mar 9 15:23:19 2011
• RE: Please answer my questions Robyn - BuzzardBall, Tue Mar 8 17:02:20 2011
• The solution seems simple... - jason, Tue Mar 8 19:02:45 2011
• Scientific study to prove the facts - mqbuchanan, Tue Mar 8 19:49:43 2011
• RE: Scientific study to prove the facts - ecdysis, Tue Mar 8 20:10:17 2011
• RE: The truth on female Deserts - MajorLeagueReptiles, Tue Mar 8 23:22:40 2011
• You do have a point Brant - TheTruth, Wed Mar 9 16:07:01 2011
• RE: The truth........LOL - JBrant, Wed Mar 9 10:19:48 2011
• RE: The truth........LOL - TheTruth, Wed Mar 9 16:11:21 2011
• RE: The truth on female Deserts - zippy00_99, Wed Mar 9 16:35:17 2011
• RE: The truth on female Deserts - TheTruth, Wed Mar 9 16:44:44 2011
• Ok, I'm done - TheTruth, Wed Mar 9 16:50:11 2011
• RE: Ok, I'm done - TerryHeuring, Wed Mar 9 20:48:25 2011
• Hey Terry - TheTruth, Thu Mar 10 14:21:59 2011
• RE: Hey Terry - TerryHeuring, Thu Mar 10 22:20:13 2011
• RE: Hey Terry - TheTruth, Fri Mar 11 12:01:18 2011
• RE: Hey Terry - TerryHeuring, Fri Mar 11 13:21:14 2011
• RE: The truth on female Deserts - PHLdyPayne, Thu Mar 10 02:19:36 2011
• RE: The truth on female Deserts - SteveinIL, Thu Mar 10 02:43:41 2011
• RE: The truth on female Deserts - zippy00_99, Thu Mar 10 10:06:28 2011
• Why did my new Desert thread magically - TheTruth, Fri Mar 11 11:46:26 2011
• BZGunns Totally Agrees!! - BZGunns, Fri Mar 11 12:36:52 2011
• RE: The truth on female Deserts - imridethelghtng, Sat Mar 12 07:31:44 2011