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nategodin
at Fri May 13 07:59:53 2011 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by nategodin ]
Hello,
Unfortunately, these aren't quite Popayan locality animals, either... I contacted Bill Lamar about them a while back, and only one of the two original snakes was from that locality. The other was "suitcased" into the country, and can't even be pinned down to a particular country of origin... all that is known for certain is that it came from South America, and was later identified as a micropholis using meristic analysis. This information came straight from Stan Grumbeck and Bill Lamar, who I contacted via e-mail a little over a year ago. Bill is an interesting guy to correspond with, doesn't have much regard for Williams' system of classification, but he knows more about field herping in Colombia and Ecuador than most of us ever will, so I have to respect his opinion. Stan is well known and respected as well. Based on what they've told me, I would consider these to be "hobby micros" in much the same way we have "hobby hondos". They are micropholis x andesiana in the sense that they posess the intergrade traits (especially subcaudal scale count) defined in Williams' book.
The juvenile female that Dad got me to pair up with the subadult male in the picture came from Scott Ballard labeled simply as "South American" and I would agree that that's the most precise and accurate common name or locality that could be applied to this particular race of milksnakes.
Hope that clears things up, and thanks for the kind words.
Nate
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RE: Well... - nategodin, Fri May 13 07:59:53 2011