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RE: Sinaloan vs Nelsoni

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Posted by: DISCERN at Sat Jul 2 11:47:45 2011   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by DISCERN ]  
   

It is frustrating.

They are very different, if pure specimens are put side by side with each other.

Nelsoni-White snout, Sinaloan-black snout.

Nelsoni-first black ring usually is not as clean and incomplete, in terms of being connected across the throat area. Sinaloans-first black ring forms a V-like pattern across the throat.

Nelsoni-red bands/rings are around 13-18. Sinaloans-red bands/rings average around 10-14 or maybe up to 16.

The problem is that a lot of people in our hobby haven't taken the time to keep them separate, in terms of the albino Nelsoni bred with Sinaloans, thinking they ARE all the same, ( when in reality, they are not ), and then you have these " het albino Sinaloans, albino Sinaloans " etc. being sold. Thus the confusion!! haha!!

I could parallel Sonoran gophers with west TX. bullsnakes. Two subspecies different than each other, and do sometimes intergrade, but then you have people promoting ideas that they are all the same, when in reality, they are not, when both subspecies are compared side by side. Pretty soon, if not already, it would be hard to find a pure Sinalaon or pure Nelsoni. Sad, isn't it!!?




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